[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Buddhist Sanskrit literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit) › [Mahāyāna sūtras](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra) › [Saṃdhinirmocanasūtra](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra.samdhinirmocana) › [འཕགས་པ་དགོངས་པ་ངེས་པར་འགྲེལ་པ་ཞེས་བྱ་བ་ཐེག་པ་ཆེན་པོའི་མདོ](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra.samdhinirmocana*bo) › [Unraveling the Intent](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra.samdhinirmocana*bo~en-84000) › 11 # འཕགས་པ་དགངས་པ་ངས་པར་འགྲལ་པ་ཞས་བྱ་བ་ཐག་པ་ཆན་པའ་མད 11 Unraveling the Intent 11 - **Language:** English ### [11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra.samdhinirmocana*bo~en-84000.11) extinction of transitory aggregates. Dharmodgata, it is like this: Those who have indulged and taken delight in argumentative disputations for a long time on account of their attachment to the self cannot imagine, infer, or appreciate that there is no attachment to the self and no argumentative disputations in Uttarakuru. “Dharmodgata, likewise, those who \[have indulged for a long time in\] speculation cannot imagine, infer, or appreciate the ultimate whose defining characteristic transcends all speculation.” Then, at that moment, the Blessed One spoke these verses: “It is the domain whose characteristic must be intuitively cognized, Beyond all expressions, apart from all conventions, And free from argumentative disputations—⁷² Such is the ultimate whose characteristic transcends all speculation.”⁷³ Chapter 3 Then the bodhisattva Su­viśuddha­mati addressed the Blessed One, “Blessed One, at an earlier time, you spoke these words: ‘The ultimate is subtle and profound. Characterized as transcending what is distinct or indistinct⁷⁴ \[from conditioned phenomena\], it is difficult to understand.’ How wonderful indeed are these words of yours! Blessed One, regarding this point, I once saw many bodhisattvas who, having attained the stage of engagement through aspiration,⁷⁵ assembled in one place to discuss in the following way whether conditioned phenomena and the ultimate are distinct or indistinct. Among them, some declared, ‘The defining characteristic of conditioned phenomena and the defining characteristic of the ultimate are indistinct.’⁷⁶ Others replied, ‘It is not the case that the defining characteristic of conditioned phenomena and the defining characteristic of the ultimate are indistinct, for they are distinct indeed.’ - [Previous: 10](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra.samdhinirmocana*bo~en-84000.10) - [Next: 12](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra.samdhinirmocana*bo~en-84000.12) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra.samdhinirmocana*bo~en-mt.11) — English, machine translation ## Linked texts (1) - [འཕགས་པ་དགོངས་པ་ངེས་པར་འགྲེལ་པ་ཞེས་བྱ་བ་ཐེག་པ་ཆེན་པོའི་མདོ](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra.samdhinirmocana*bo.11) — Classical Tibetan --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra.samdhinirmocana*bo~en-84000.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra.samdhinirmocana*bo~en-84000.11) · Pramāṇa