[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [大般涅槃經集解](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1763) › 5.16 # 大般涅槃經集解 5.16 大般涅槃經集解 5.16 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [5.16](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1763.5.16) 案道生曰：純陀言迹，似如無滅，故據滅為難也。僧亮曰：文殊欲令純陀顯釋涅槃不滅之義，乃晦居未達，執迹興難，謂不應請也。敬遺記僧宗曰：請門第四論義明常也。慧朗述僧宗曰：常住妙有，是則不空。無常斷絕，所以而言具空三昧也。寶亮曰：文殊迹居負地，以顯純陀之德，將使時眾捨昔所解而從今信也。文殊執迹，有二失也。若言丈六是實生滅者，則應道便癈，其失一也。丈六以法身為本，本迹雖殊，更無別體；若丈六生滅是實者，則法身之本豈得獨常？是為兩失矣。 > Daosheng states: Cunda's words and traces seemed to imply non-cessation; hence \[Mañjuśrī\] raised an objection based on cessation. > Sengliang states: Mañjuśrī wished to cause Cunda to clearly explain the meaning of nirvāṇa's non-cessation; thus, concealing his own wisdom as if not yet comprehending, he clung to the trace to raise an objection, asserting that one should not entreat \[the Buddha\]. > Sengzong's Jingyi ji states: This is the fourth part of the entreaty section, an argument clarifying permanence. > Huilang, citing Sengzong, states: What permanently abides is wondrous existence; this is not empty. Impermanence ceases and cuts off; therefore it is said that he 'possesses the samādhi of emptiness'. > Baoliang states: Mañjuśrī ostensibly took the losing ground in order to highlight Cunda's virtue, intending to cause the assembly at that time to relinquish their past understanding and comply with their present faith. Mañjuśrī's clinging to the trace entails two faults: If one says that the sixteen-foot form truly undergoes arising and ceasing, then the path of response would be abolished, which is the first fault. The sixteen-foot form takes the dharmakāya as its source; though source and trace differ, they have no separate substance. If the arising and ceasing of the sixteen-foot form were real, how could the source, the dharmakāya, alone be permanent? These are the two faults. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 5.15](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1763.5.15) - [Next: 5.17](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1763.5.17) - [Up: 5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1763.5) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1763~en-mt.5.16) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1763.5.16](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1763.5.16) · Pramāṇa