[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [大般涅槃經義記](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1764) › 9.11 # 大般涅槃經義記 9.11 大般涅槃經義記 9.11 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [9.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1764.9.11) 第四外道反徵如來。「若無我者，誰作善惡」。下佛先以四義別破。「若我作者，云何名常？如其常者，云何有時作善作惡」是一破也。「若有時作，云何復得言我無邊」是二破也。「若我作者，云何行惡」是三破也。「若我知者，云何生疑眾生無我」是四破也。「以是義」下，總以結破。 > In the fourth, the non-Buddhist interrogates the Tathāgata in return: "If there is no self, who performs good and evil?" Below, the Buddha first refutes him distinctly by four points. "If the self is the agent, how can it be called permanent? If it were permanent, how could it sometimes perform good and sometimes perform evil?" This is the first refutation. "If it acts at certain times, how can one still say that the self is boundless?" This is the second refutation. "If the self is the agent, why would it practice evil?" This is the third refutation. "If the self is the knower, why would it give rise to doubts about the non-self of sentient beings?" This is the fourth refutation. From "For this reason..." onward, he concludes the refutation generally. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 9.10](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1764.9.10) - [Next: 9.12](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1764.9.12) - [Up: 9](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1764.9) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1764~en-mt.9.11) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1764.9.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1764.9.11) · Pramāṇa