[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [注維摩詰經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1775) › 3.121 # 注維摩詰經 3.121 注維摩詰經 3.121 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [3.121](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1775.3.121) 肇曰：如來言說未甞有心，故其所說法未甞有相。迦旃延不諭玄旨，故於入室之後皆以相說也。何則？如來去常故說無常，非謂是無常；去樂故言苦，非謂是苦；去實故言空，非謂是空；去我故言無我，非謂是無我；去相故言寂滅，非謂是寂滅。此五者可謂無言之教、無相之談。而迦旃延造極不同、聽隨心異，聞無常則取其流動，至聞寂滅亦取其滅相。此言同旨異，迦旃延所以致惑也。生曰：迦旃延是分別佛語中第一也。佛既略說於前，迦旃乃敷述於後也。存旨而不在辭，故曰演其義也。 > \[Seng\]zhao says: The Tathāgata's speech was never with mind, and therefore the Dharma he expounded was never with marks. Kātyāyana did not understand the profound meaning, and so after entering the room he explained them all in terms of marks. How so? The Tathāgata spoke of impermanence to remove permanence, not meaning that there is this impermanence; he spoke of suffering to remove pleasure, not meaning that there is this suffering; he spoke of emptiness to remove reality, not meaning that there is this emptiness; he spoke of non-self to remove self, not meaning that there is this non-self; he spoke of quiescent extinction to remove marks, not meaning that there is this quiescent extinction. These five may be called teaching without words and discourse without marks. Yet Kātyāyana's attainment of the ultimate was not the same, and hearing differs according to one's mind: hearing of impermanence, he grasped its flux; coming to hear of quiescent extinction, he also grasped its mark of extinction. The words were the same but the intention different; this is why Kātyāyana fell into error. \[Dao\]sheng says: Kātyāyana is foremost in discriminating the Buddha's words. The Buddha having first expounded briefly, Kātyāyana subsequently expounded and recounted it. He preserved the intention and did not dwell on the words, hence it is said that he 'elaborated upon their meaning.' > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 3.120](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1775.3.120) - [Next: 3.122](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1775.3.122) - [Up: 3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1775.3) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1775~en-mt.3.121) — English, machine translation ## Linked texts (1) - [淨名經集解關中疏](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2777.1.437) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1775.3.121](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1775.3.121) · Pramāṇa