[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [四分律刪繁補闕行事鈔](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1804) › 1.204 # 四分律刪繁補闕行事鈔 1.204 四分律刪繁補闕行事鈔 1.204 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [1.204](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1804.1.204) 問：為俱離失？互離失耶？答：俱離失也，互則不定。故文中若眾大，聲小，不聞說戒，令作轉輪，高座立上說之，此則見而不聞也。又如多人說戒，何由併得見作法者面？此則聞而不見也。離此二人，則名失欲。必互離有失，據隔障等之緣。前言離見聞失者，通望比座展轉離也。如《五分》解：謂同覆障相離，雖說不成。 > Question: Is it lost only when apart from both, or is it lost when apart from either one? Answer: It is lost when apart from both; being apart from only one is indeterminate. Thus, in the text, if the assembly is large and the voice is small so that they do not hear the upoṣadha recitation, it directs that a wheel-turning \[stand\] be made, upon which high seat one stands and recites it; this is seeing without hearing. Furthermore, as when many people perform the upoṣadha recitation, how could everyone see the face of the one performing the rite? This is hearing without seeing. If one is apart from both of these, it is termed losing the chanda. If being apart from either one results in loss, it is based on circumstances such as a screen or barrier. The earlier statement that being apart from seeing and hearing causes loss refers generally to the mutual separation from adjacent seats in succession. As the Pañcavargika-vinaya explains: this refers to being separated by sharing a covering or barrier; even if it is recited, it is invalid. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 1.203](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1804.1.203) - [Next: 1.205](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1804.1.205) - [Up: 1](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1804.1) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1804~en-mt.1.204) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1804.1.204](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1804.1.204) · Pramāṇa