[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [俱舍論疏](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1822) › 28.69 # 俱舍論疏 28.69 俱舍論疏 28.69 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [28.69](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1822.28.69) 論「然契經說至非永出故」，通伏難也。伏難意云：若無色界無色者，應無色有出於色有，如何經說有不出有？有三釋：一自地有不能出自地有，即是自地有漏道不能制自地惑，要因上地方能斷故。非遍出者，雖上地有出下地有，而不能出非想有也。雖能出下地有，後定退故，非永出也。依如是理，說有不出有也。 > The Śāstra says: "However, a sūtra says... \[because it is not an everlasting departure\]," which resolves a covert objection. The import of the covert objection is: if the formless realm has no form, then formless existence should depart from existence of form; why then does a sūtra state that existence does not depart from existence? There are three explanations: First, existence of one's own level cannot depart from existence of one's own level; that is, the defiled path of one's own level cannot suppress the defilements of one's own level, and it is necessary to rely on a higher level to be able to sever them. As for "not universally departing": although existence of a higher level departs from existence of a lower level, it cannot depart from the existence of the peak of existence (naivasaṃjñānāsaṃjñāyatana). Although it can depart from the existence of lower levels, because one is certain to regress later, it is not an everlasting departure. It is based on such reasoning that it is said "existence does not depart from existence." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 28.68](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1822.28.68) - [Next: 28.70](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1822.28.70) - [Up: 28](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1822.28) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1822~en-mt.28.69) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1822.28.69](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1822.28.69) · Pramāṇa