[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [瑜伽論記](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1828) › 12.505 # 瑜伽論記 12.505 瑜伽論記 12.505 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [12.505](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1828.12.505) 謂有、非有、不可說者，真如無相離言性不可說有及以非有。言即色、雜色，不可說故者，色礙如不礙不可說即，即色辨如故不說離，乃至即識離識不可說義，例前應知。 > Regarding 'ineffable as existent or non-existent': tathatā is markless and its nature is free from language, so it cannot be spoken of as existent or as non-existent. Regarding the statement 'because it cannot be spoken of as identical with form or separate from form': form is obstructive while tathatā is unobstructive, so it cannot be spoken of as identical; yet because tathatā is discerned based on form, it is not spoken of as separate; extending to the point that the meaning of being ineffable as identical with consciousness or separate from consciousness should be understood by analogy with the above. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 12.504](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1828.12.504) - [Next: 12.506](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1828.12.506) - [Up: 12](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1828.12) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1828~en-mt.12.505) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1828.12.505](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1828.12.505) · Pramāṇa