[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [瑜伽師地論略纂](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1829) › 16.47 # 瑜伽師地論略纂 16.47 瑜伽師地論略纂 16.47 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [16.47](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1829.16.47) 論云「非即彼定相應意識能取此聲」，此義意言，定中聲，聞從定起耳識，與意識俱轉，然意不與耳識同緣一境，故言非定相應意識能取此聲。　問曰：如《解深密經》云：若眼識等隨一識起時，必與意識俱轉。此如何耳識獨起，意不同緣？釋曰：彼經據散心中，五識一起時，恒常俱轉，必有意識故。　問：若爾，《對法》第七如何言以在定中，五識無故？釋曰：彼論據無五識定語。又據若任運境，定中五識即不起故；若增上新境，現在前故，如此文。定中有耳識，大義俱有此一解。又言定中一向無五識者，非也。　問曰：如散心，准定心亦有五識者，與意同緣不？答曰：不也，以取明了境必現量故。若有別緣者，即違《集量論》等五識同時意識是現量過。以散心位意識不並，五識不起，若爾，若起必同時，不同定中聞強盛境故，耳識能緣，意識堅住一境故，不與同緣。 > The treatise states: 'It is not that the mental consciousness associated with that very absorption is capable of apprehending this sound.' The meaning intended here is: as for sound within absorption, an auditory consciousness that arises upon emerging from absorption hears it and operates concurrently with the mental consciousness; however, the mind does not take the same object together with the auditory consciousness. Therefore, it is said that it is not the mental consciousness associated with absorption that is capable of apprehending this sound. Question: As the Sandhinirmocana-sūtra states: When any single consciousness such as visual consciousness arises, it necessarily operates concurrently with mental consciousness. How is it that here the auditory consciousness arises alone, and the mind does not take the same object? Explanation: That sūtra is based on the distracted state of mind: whenever the five consciousnesses arise, they constantly operate concurrently, necessarily having mental consciousness. Question: If so, why does the seventh \[fascicle\] of the Abhidharma\[-samuccaya-bhāṣya\] state that because one is within absorption, the five consciousnesses are absent? Explanation: That treatise speaks based on an absorption that lacks the five consciousnesses. Furthermore, it is based on spontaneous objects, in which case the five consciousnesses within absorption do not arise; but if an augmented, novel object manifests before one, it is as stated in this text. That auditory consciousness exists within absorption is an explanation shared by the Great Masters. Moreover, to say that there are definitively no five consciousnesses within absorption is incorrect. Question: If, by analogy with the distracted mind, the five consciousnesses also exist in the concentrated mind, do they take the same object together with the mind? Answer: No, because apprehending an evident object must be direct perception (pratyakṣa). If it took a different object, that would incur the error of contradicting the Pramāṇasamuccaya and other texts, which state that the mental consciousness concurrent with the five consciousnesses is direct perception. Because in the state of a distracted mind mental consciousness does not occur separately, the five consciousnesses do not arise \[without it\]; if they do arise, they must be concurrent. This is not like within absorption, where due to hearing an intense object, the auditory consciousness is able to apprehend it, while the mental consciousness remains firmly abiding on its single object, and hence does not take the same object with it. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 16.46](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1829.16.46) - [Next: 16.48](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1829.16.48) - [Up: 16](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1829.16) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1829~en-mt.16.47) — English, machine translation ## Linked texts (2) - [瑜伽論記](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1828.17.522) — Classical Chinese - [成唯識論演祕](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.4.734) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1829.16.47](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1829.16.47) · Pramāṇa