[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [成唯識論述記](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1830) › 2.435 # 成唯識論述記 2.435 成唯識論述記 2.435 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [2.435](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1830.2.435) 述曰：此正難云：如彼絃管聲雖有屈曲，不能生名等，此語聲上屈曲，例亦應爾。量云：汝內屈曲聲，不能生實名；聲屈曲故；如絃管聲。又若語聲上屈曲，即能生名；絃管屈曲，不能生名。我亦如是，語聲上屈曲能詮表義，絃上屈曲不能詮表，如生名相似故。言「此應如彼」聲，「不別生名」等，他宗許絃上屈曲，不別生名，此即且就他宗為論，且例令齊，此下復出己之正義。 > The Commentary states: This directly objects, saying: Just as those sounds of strings and pipes, though possessing modulations, cannot produce words and so forth, so too should the modulations upon this sound of speech be analogous. The formal argument is: 'Your internal modulated sound cannot produce real words; because it is a sound modulation; just like the sound of strings and pipes.' Furthermore, if modulations upon speech sound could produce words, while string and pipe modulations cannot produce words, then for me it is likewise: modulations upon the sound of speech can signify meaning, while modulations upon strings cannot signify, being similar to producing words. The text says, 'Then, like those sounds, these should not separately produce words and so forth' because the other school accepts that modulations upon strings do not separately produce words; this argues provisionally from the other school's perspective, making the analogy equivalent, and below, our own correct thesis will be presented. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 2.434](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1830.2.434) - [Next: 2.436](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1830.2.436) - [Up: 2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1830.2) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1830~en-mt.2.435) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1830.2.435](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1830.2.435) · Pramāṇa