[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [成唯識論了義燈](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1832) › 4.86 # 成唯識論了義燈 4.86 成唯識論了義燈 4.86 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [4.86](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1832.4.86) 問：言同境根，即眼等五根。是未知眼等識，緣境變相，為親所緣。眼等五根為照相分？為照本質？若照本質，即不同境，質、相異故。若照相分，本質何遮而不能照？答：今二解：一云，雙照，俱色境故，無法遮故；一云，照相分，云同分根，能照境故，隔自識相，故不照質。問：如隔瑠璃等，尚能見外，自識相分，有說非礙，何故能遮？答：勢分力隔，不以相礙，前解為勝。問：五識變相，為依託質，為不離見，若依託質，應離識取。若不離見，何成離合知，識皆與根不即離故。答：雖依託質，不離見分，俱悉無過，以能緣見不可說云在此非彼處，以無形礙故。若爾，如何名離合取。答：以五色根望本質說，不約相分，故成離合，不離識緣。問：五識何為以第六識為分別根？答：《瑜伽》五十五云：由三緣故，謂極明了故，於彼作意故，依資養故。言明了取者：意雖由五，而得明了，五亦由六，能明了取，若無意識，五不起故。於彼作意者：由欲得緣彼境界故，即同緣義。依資養者：謂由意識資養，眼等識方得起故，即引發義。 > Question: Regarding the shared-object faculties, which are the five faculties like the eye: is it not known whether consciousnesses like the eye consciousness, when perceiving objects, transform an image as their immediate object? Do the five faculties like the eye illuminate the image-part or the underlying substance? If they illuminate the underlying substance, they do not share the same object, because the substance and the image are different. If they illuminate the image-part, what obstructs the underlying substance such that they cannot illuminate it? Answer: There are now two explanations: One says they illuminate both, because both are form-objects and there is no phenomenon obstructing them. The other says they illuminate the image-part, because it is called a shared-share faculty and can illuminate objects; being separated by the image of one's own consciousness, they do not illuminate the substance. Question: Just as through glass or the like, one can still see the outside, and some say the image-part of one's own consciousness is not an obstruction; why would it be able to block? Answer: It is separated by the power of potentiality, not by physical obstruction; the former explanation is superior. Question: When the five consciousnesses transform images, do they rely on the substance, or are they inseparable from the seeing-part? If they rely on the substance, they should perceive apart from consciousness. If they are inseparable from the seeing-part, how is perception by separation and contact established, since all consciousnesses are neither identical with nor separate from their faculties? Answer: Though they rely on the substance, they are inseparable from the seeing-part; neither incurs any fault. Because the cognitive seeing-part cannot be said to be 'here and not there', having no spatial obstruction. If so, how is it called perception by separation and contact? Answer: It is spoken of in terms of the five physical faculties with respect to the underlying substance, not with respect to the image-part; hence perception by separation and contact is established without perceiving apart from consciousness. Question: Why do the five consciousnesses take the sixth consciousness as their discriminating faculty? Answer: The Yogācārabhūmi, fascicle 55, says: It is due to three conditions: because of extreme clarity, because of attention toward that, and because of reliance on nourishment. Apprehending with clarity means: although the mental consciousness attains clarity through the five, the five also apprehend with clarity through the sixth, because without the mental consciousness the five do not arise. Attention toward that means: due to the desire to perceive that sphere of objects; this is the meaning of shared perception. Reliance on nourishment means: because nourished by the mental consciousness, the eye and other consciousnesses are able to arise; this is the meaning of initiating. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 4.85](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1832.4.85) - [Next: 4.87](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1832.4.87) - [Up: 4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1832.4) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1832~en-mt.4.86) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1832.4.86](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1832.4.86) · Pramāṇa