[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [成唯識論演祕](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833) › 2.470 # 成唯識論演祕 2.470 成唯識論演祕 2.470 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [2.470](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.2.470) 答：喻意成前有法能令心、心所滅，顯所遮外而有能遮不成實有。若不爾者，有宗、經部皆許堰等非是實有為實之喻，喻豈不有兩俱所立不成過耶？為離此過故不成實，斯乃疏主深得彼旨。有義：如堤塘言，與外人量為不定過。謂外量云：二無心定、無想異熟定是實有；是能遮故；如無色定。與作過云：為如無色定是能遮故是實有耶？為如堤塘是能遮故非實有耶？ > Answer: The intention of the metaphor is to establish what was stated earlier—that there is a dharma capable of causing the mind and mental factors to cease—revealing that apart from what is blocked, there is an agent that blocks, without establishing \[it as\] substantially real. If it were not so, both the Sarvāstivāda and the Sautrāntika accept that dikes and the like are not substantially real; if it were used as an example of what is real, would the metaphor not incur the fallacy that the probandum is unestablished in both \[systems\]? It was to avoid this fallacy that it was not established as substantially real; thus the author of the Commentary thoroughly grasped their intended meaning. Another opinion says: The words 'like an embankment' incur the fallacy of inconclusiveness (anaikāntika) against the opponent's inference. That is, the opponent's inference says: 'The two mindless absorptions and the non-conception maturation are definitely substantially real; because they are capable of blocking; just like the formless absorption.' Showing the fallacy against this, one asks: 'Is it, like the formless absorption, substantially real because it is capable of blocking? Or is it, like an embankment, not substantially real because it is capable of blocking?' > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 2.469](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.2.469) - [Next: 2.471](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.2.471) - [Up: 2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.2) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833~en-mt.2.470) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.2.470](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.2.470) · Pramāṇa