[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [成唯識論演祕](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833) › 4.61 # 成唯識論演祕 4.61 成唯識論演祕 4.61 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [4.61](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.4.61) 有說無餘涅槃為喻。彼宗滅定既許有心，餘無心位亦應爾故。故《成業》云：「諸無心位亦有心耶？應如一類經為量者所許，細心彼位猶有。」故不應以悶絕為喻。有義：若爾，因成不定，悶絕等位心所無故，故應合成；滅盡等位應無意識，無大地心所故。如眼等識不行位中，或無餘依亦得為喻，或死屍等為喻亦得。 > Some say that nirvāṇa without remainder is the example. Since that school allows mind in the absorption of cessation, the other mindless states should also be like that. Thus the Karmasiddhi states: 'Do all mindless states also possess mind? It should be as maintained by a group of Sūtradhāras, that subtle mind still exists in those states.' Therefore one should not use fainting as an example. Some argue: If so, the reason becomes inconclusive, because caitasikas are absent in states like fainting. Therefore it should be combined into: 'States such as cessation must lack the mental consciousness, because they lack the universal (mahābhūmika) caitasikas, just as in the states where eye consciousness, etc., do not operate.' Or nirvāṇa without remainder can also serve as the example, or a corpse, etc., can also serve as the example. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 4.60](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.4.60) - [Next: 4.62](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.4.62) - [Up: 4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.4) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833~en-mt.4.61) — English, machine translation ## Linked texts (1) - [大乘成業論](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.tibet.tengyur.sems_tsam.karmasiddhiprakarana*zh-xuanzang.1.16) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.4.61](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1833.4.61) · Pramāṇa