[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [起信論疏筆削記](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1848) › 17.31 # 起信論疏筆削記 17.31 起信論疏筆削記 17.31 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [17.31](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1848.17.31) 今但下，對此重解依轉識說為境界之意，此有二義：一、約菩薩未離業識，猶有見相，入觀雖與無分別智相應，不分能所，出觀則與此識相應。約此識上，說前證時以為境界。二、約後得智中，相見道內，重慮緣真，變起影像，彷正證時說真為境。此但似境，非謂實有，然亦不離是轉識現，故疏雙標後得智中業識未盡也。然至釋相，但約業識未盡義說，故云轉現猶存等也。以後得下，出第二義，或問曰：「如上所說，業識未盡，是即聞命，後得智中如何分別？」故此釋之，意明根本實證之時，但是一心真見道，無分別能所之相。若後得智中以能見心反緣所證，以有此能緣心故，便有真如影像當情為所緣境界，像雖不實，還似真如。秖據此義，說後得智中依於轉識名境界也。如人飲水，正飲之時不能說其冷暖，飲水之後方得說之，說時雖不得水體，其如所說之水還似所飲之水也。而實等者，真如是所證，智是能證，能所無二方名法身。以法身本具理智，理智本無二故，斯則住唯識理，離二取相也。 > "Now, only..." below re-explains, in response to this, the meaning of speaking of it as an objective realm relying on the evolving consciousness. This has two meanings: First, in terms of the bodhisattva not yet having separated from the karmic consciousness, there is still the mark of seeing; when entering contemplation, although corresponding with non-conceptual wisdom and not distinguishing subject and object, upon exiting contemplation one corresponds with this consciousness. In terms of this consciousness, the earlier time of realization is spoken of as an objective realm. Second, in terms of subsequent wisdom, within the path of seeing through marks, reconsidering and cognizing the true, it produces an image and, resembling the time of correct realization, speaks of the true as an object. This is only a semblance of an object, not a real existence, yet it is also not separated from the manifestation of this evolving consciousness. Therefore, the commentary jointly indicates that within subsequent wisdom the karmic consciousness is not yet exhausted. However, when coming to explain the mark, it is only spoken of in terms of the karmic consciousness not being exhausted, hence it says "evolving and manifesting still remain," etc. "Because of subsequent..." below sets forth the second meaning. Someone may ask, "As stated above, that the karmic consciousness is not yet exhausted is understood; how is it conceptually differentiated within subsequent wisdom?" Therefore this explains it. The intention is to clarify that at the time of the fundamental, actual realization, there is only the One Mind of the true path of seeing, without the marks of conceptually differentiated subject and object. If in subsequent wisdom, the cognizing mind reflects back upon what was realized, because this cognizing subject exists, an image of tathatā is immediately before the mind as the cognized objective realm. Although the image is not real, it still resembles tathatā. Merely based on this meaning, it is said that within subsequent wisdom, relying on the evolving consciousness, it is called an objective realm. It is like a person drinking water: while actually drinking, they cannot speak of its coldness or warmth; only after drinking can they speak of it. When speaking, although they cannot grasp the essence of the water, the water spoken of still resembles the water that was drunk. "Yet in reality..." and so forth: tathatā is that which is realized, and wisdom is that which realizes; only when subject and object are non-dual is it called the dharmakāya. Because the dharmakāya originally possesses both principle and wisdom, and principle and wisdom are originally non-dual, this is abiding in the principle of vijñaptimātra, free from the marks of dual grasping. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 17.30](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1848.17.30) - [Next: 17.32](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1848.17.32) - [Up: 17](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1848.17) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1848~en-mt.17.31) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1848.17.31](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1848.17.31) · Pramāṇa