[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [肇論疏](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1859) › 1.83 # 肇論疏 1.83 肇論疏 1.83 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [1.83](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1859.1.83) 第二、引二經證成也。童子者，《維摩經》中長者子寶積也。言佛說法非定是有，亦非是無，皆從因緣而有也。瓔珞經云者，此是《大纓絡經》也。彼經第十三卷初，文殊師利問云：一切諸佛轉法輪，為有轉耶？為無轉耶？佛言：諸佛正法，亦不有轉亦不無轉。文殊復問：云何亦不有轉亦不無轉？佛言：諸法空故，亦無有轉亦無無轉也。此乃眾經之微言者，諸經中微妙之言也。 > Second, citing two scriptures to verify and establish it. 'The youth' is the elder's son Ratnakāra in the \*Vimalakīrtinirdeśa\*. It means that the Buddha's preaching of the Dharma is not determinately existent, nor is it non-existent, but all exists through causes and conditions. As for 'the \*Yingluo jing\* says,' this is the \*Da yingluo jing\*. At the beginning of the thirteenth fascicle of that scripture, Mañjuśrī asks: 'When all the Buddhas turn the wheel of the Dharma, is there a turning, or is there no turning?' The Buddha says: 'The correct Dharma of the Buddhas is neither turned as existent, nor turned as non-existent.' Mañjuśrī asks again: 'Why is it neither turned as existent nor turned as non-existent?' The Buddha says: 'Because all dharmas are empty, there is neither an existent turning nor a non-existent turning.' 'These are the subtle words of the various scriptures': the subtle and profound words found within the various scriptures. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 1.82](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1859.1.82) - [Next: 1.84](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1859.1.84) - [Up: 1](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1859.1) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1859~en-mt.1.83) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1859.1.83](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1859.1.83) · Pramāṇa