[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [肇論新疏](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860) › 2.164 # 肇論新疏 2.164 肇論新疏 2.164 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [2.164](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.2.164) 了了妙存，故曰知。分別已亡，故曰不取。故能下，正由遍計久空、無明永盡，無能取相也。知由不取，取則不知，故云不取而知。若此尚非自知，況取境邪。如永嘉云：「若以自知知，亦非無緣知。如手自作拳，非是不拳手。」 > Clearly and wondrously abiding, it is therefore called knowing. Discrimination having already vanished, it is therefore called not grasping. From "therefore it can" onward: precisely because imagined conceptualization has long been empty and fundamental ignorance is forever exhausted, there are no marks of grasping subject. Knowing arises from not grasping; if there is grasping, then there is no knowing; hence it says "knows without grasping." If it is like this, there is not even self-knowing, let alone grasping objects! As Yongjia said: "If one knows with self-knowing, this too is not unconditioned knowing; just as a hand making itself into a fist is not a hand that is not a fist." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 2.163](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.2.163) - [Next: 2.165](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.2.165) - [Up: 2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.2) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860~en-mt.2.164) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.2.164](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.2.164) · Pramāṇa