[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [肇論新疏](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860) › 3.430 # 肇論新疏 3.430 肇論新疏 3.430 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [3.430](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.3.430) 此有四對，皆上句示體、下句辨得。初二對，約心境。玄道，境也。絕域，事之外也。妙智，心也。皆非俗故，故云物外。下二句，可了，但約境言得、約心言知。後二對，約相名以辨。大象非相，不存相以見，然後真見；存相則不見也。大音非聲，不循聲以聞，然後普聞；循聲則不聞也。是故離朱外馳而不得，只為無形；觀音返聞而圓通，良由即性。願諸達士勿循形聲。 > Here there are four pairs, all with the upper line indicating the substance and the lower line differentiating the attainment. The first two pairs pertain to mind and object. "Profound Way" is the object. "Realm beyond" is outside phenomenal affairs. "Subtle wisdom" is the mind. Because neither is conventional, it therefore says "beyond things." The next two lines can be understood, merely speaking of attainment with respect to the object and speaking of knowing with respect to the mind. The latter two pairs are differentiated with respect to marks and names. The great image is not a mark; not preserving marks in order to see, only then is there true seeing; preserving marks, one does not see. The great sound is not a noise; not pursuing sounds in order to hear, only then is there universal hearing; pursuing sounds, one does not hear. For this reason, when Li Zhu ran outwardly and could not find it, it was only because it was formless; when Guanyin listened back and attained perfect penetration, it was truly due to conforming to nature. May all discerning persons not pursue forms and sounds! > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 3.429](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.3.429) - [Next: 3.431](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.3.431) - [Up: 3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.3) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860~en-mt.3.430) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.3.430](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1860.3.430) · Pramāṇa