[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [釋淨土群疑論](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1960) › 3.11 # 釋淨土群疑論 3.11 釋淨土群疑論 3.11 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [3.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1960.3.11) 釋曰：若如三階禪師作此難者，未知娑婆世界第二階人許誹謗正法、毀呰賢聖不？若許誹謗正法、毀呰賢聖，無擯棄不？若許擯棄，為得生淨土不？若不得生，何因禪師將此經文偏證第三階者不得生耶？若得生者，此人既謗法、毀賢聖，即當擯棄。何因得生淨佛土耶？若謂第二階人不謗法、毀賢聖，即無擯棄，故得生者，何為得造闡提而不得謗法也？若謂得謗法毀聖而淨土不擯故得生者，請出聖教有何經文？若謂雖謗法毀賢聖淨土所擯，然根正過輕而得生者，何為彼經言棄、此經便取？又一切第三階人，悉唯居在娑婆世界，咸悉謗法毀賢聖耶？若悉毀謗者，在於胎藏初生嬰孩，豈能謗正法毀賢聖耶？若許亦有第三階人不謗法毀聖，此即不當擯棄之限。何因亦言不生淨土，而引此經為其證也？若謂今生雖未毀謗，過去皆悉曾毀謗者，寧知第二階者不曾謗毀耶？若謂此經之意欲顯第三階者純邪無正，謗與不謗咸擯，不得往生；第二階人亦邪亦正，毀與不毀咸悉得往生淨土者。此之聖教還太過太減二失。太過失者，浪擯第二階謗毀人也；太減失者，謬不棄第三階不謗毀人也。禪師宗途引文解義，常與聖教一倍相違，下愚未敢見其能處也。 > I explain: If the Chan master of the Three Levels raises this objection, one wonders: does he grant that persons of the second level in the Sahā world can slander the true Dharma and revile the worthy and noble, or not? If he grants that they can slander the true Dharma and revile the worthy and noble, are they free from being rejected, or not? If he grants that they are rejected, do they attain rebirth in the Pure Land, or not? If they do not attain rebirth, why does the Chan master use this scriptural passage to prove biasedly that only those of the third level do not attain rebirth? If they do attain rebirth, since such a person has slandered the Dharma and reviled the worthy and noble, they ought to be rejected; why then would they attain rebirth in the pure buddha-land? If he asserts that persons of the second level do not slander the Dharma and revile the worthy and noble, and thus are not rejected and so attain rebirth, why could they commit \[the deeds of\] an icchantika and yet be unable to slander the Dharma? If he asserts that they may slander the Dharma and revile the noble, yet because the pure land does not reject \[them\] they attain rebirth, please cite the sacred teaching—in what sūtra passage is this found? If he asserts that although they slander the Dharma and revile the worthy and noble and are rejected by the pure land, nonetheless their faculties are upright and their faults light, so that they attain rebirth, why would that sūtra speak of rejection while this sūtra accepts them? Furthermore, do all persons of the third level reside exclusively in the Sahā world, and do they without exception slander the Dharma and revile the worthy and noble? If all without exception revile and slander, how could an infant newly born from the womb slander the true Dharma and revile the worthy and noble? If he grants that there are also persons of the third level who do not slander the Dharma and revile the noble, then these do not fall within the scope of rejection. Why then does he still say they are not reborn in the Pure Land, citing this sūtra as his proof? If he asserts that although they have not reviled it in this life, all of them have reviled it in past lives, how does he know that those of the second level have never reviled it in the past? If he asserts that the intent of this sūtra is to reveal that those of the third level are purely perverse without rectitude, so that whether they slander or not they are all rejected and cannot attain rebirth, whereas persons of the second level are both perverse and upright, so that whether they revile or not they all attain rebirth in the pure land—then his reading of this sacred teaching incurs the two faults of going too far and falling too short. The fault of going too far consists in groundlessly rejecting those of the second level who slander and revile; the fault of falling too short consists in mistakenly failing to reject those of the third level who do not slander and revile. In the lineage and approach of that Chan master, when he cites texts to explain doctrines, he is constantly at complete variance with the sacred teachings; I, in my humble ignorance, have yet to see where his competence lies. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 3.10](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1960.3.10) - [Next: 3.12](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1960.3.12) - [Up: 3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1960.3) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1960~en-mt.3.11) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1960.3.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1960.3.11) · Pramāṇa