[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [筠州洞山悟本禪師語錄](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1986a) › 1.87 # 筠州洞山悟本禪師語錄 1.87 筠州洞山悟本禪師語錄 1.87 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [1.87](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1986a.1.87) 有僧辭大慈，慈曰：「去什麼處？」僧云：「暫去江西。」慈曰：「我勞汝一段事得否？」僧云：「和尚有什麼事？」慈曰：「將取老僧去。」僧云：「更有過於和尚者，亦不能將得去。」慈便休。其僧後舉似師。師曰：「闍黎爭合恁麼道？」僧云：「和尚作麼生？」師曰：「得。」法眼別云：「和尚若去，某甲提笠子。」師又問其僧：「大慈別有什麼言句？」僧云：「有時示眾云：『說得一丈不如行取一尺，說得一尺不如行取一寸。』」師曰：「我不恁麼道。」僧云：「作麼生？」師曰：「說取行不得底，行取說不得底。」雲居云：「行時無說路，說時無行路，不說不行時，合行什麼路？」樂普云：「行說俱不到，即本事在。」 > A monk took leave of Daci. Daci said, "Where are you going?" The monk said, "For a time I am going to Jiangxi." Daci said, "May I trouble you with a matter?" The monk said, "What matter does the upādhyāya have?" Daci said, "Take this old monk with you." The monk said, "Even if there were someone surpassing the upādhyāya, I could not take him along." Daci then dropped the matter. That monk later recounted this to the Master. The Master said, "How could the ācārya speak like that?" The monk said, "How would the upādhyāya put it?" The Master said, "It is fine." Fayan gave an alternative reply, saying, "If the upādhyāya goes, I will carry your bamboo hat." The Master further asked that monk, "What other words and phrases did Daci have?" The monk said, "Sometimes he instructed the assembly, saying: 'Speaking a zhang is not as good as practicing a chi; speaking a chi is not as good as practicing a cun.'" The Master said, "I do not speak like that." The monk said, "How do you speak?" The Master said, "Speak what cannot be practiced; practice what cannot be spoken." Yunju said, "When practicing, there is no path of speech; when speaking, there is no path of practice. When neither speaking nor practicing, what path should one walk?" Lepu said, "When neither practice nor speech reaches it, then the original matter is present." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 1.86](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1986a.1.86) - [Next: 1.88](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1986a.1.88) - [Up: 1](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1986a.1) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1986a~en-mt.1.87) — English, machine translation ## Linked texts (1) - [瑞州洞山良价禪師語錄](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1986b.1.99) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1986a.1.87](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1986a.1.87) · Pramāṇa