[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [明覺禪師語錄](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1996) › 3.31 # 明覺禪師語錄 3.31 明覺禪師語錄 3.31 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [3.31](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1996.3.31) 舉：「本仁和尚示眾云：『尋常不欲向聲前句後鼓弄人家男女。何故？且聲不是聲，色不是色。』時有僧問：『如何是聲不是聲？』仁云：『喚作色得麼？』云：『如何是色不是色？』仁云：『喚作聲得麼？』僧禮拜，仁云：『且道，為汝說？答汝話？若人辯得，有箇入處。』」師云：「本仁也甚奇怪，要且貪觀天上，既非聲前句後，且作麼生入？」 > He cited: "Upādhyāya Benren addressed the assembly, saying: 'Usually I do not wish to manipulate other people's sons and daughters before sound and after phrase. Why is this? Furthermore, sound is not sound, and form is not form.' At that time a monk asked, 'How is it that sound is not sound?' Ren said, 'Can it be called form?' \[The monk\] said, 'How is it that form is not form?' Ren said, 'Can it be called sound?' The monk bowed. Ren said, 'Now tell me: did I explain for you, or did I answer your words? If someone can discern this, they have an entry point.'" The Master said, "Benren was also quite extraordinary; yet coveting a look at the heavens, since it is not 'before sound and after phrase,' just how does one enter?" > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 3.30](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1996.3.30) - [Next: 3.32](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1996.3.32) - [Up: 3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1996.3) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1996~en-mt.3.31) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1996.3.31](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1996.3.31) · Pramāṇa