[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [圓悟佛果禪師語錄](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997) › 10.21 # 圓悟佛果禪師語錄 10.21 圓悟佛果禪師語錄 10.21 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [10.21](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.10.21) 小參，師云：「一向說事說理，論妙論玄，談心談性，墮在葛藤窠裏；一向行棒行喝，立照立用，存捲存舒，落在荊棘林中；更或舉古舉今，話偏話正，立主立賓，也是撒沙撒土；忽若見山即山，見水即水，僧是僧，俗是俗，落在無事界內。記使總不恁麼，大似曳尾靈龜；直饒獨體單明，亦是狐狸戀窟。若有箇出身處去，似地擎山，不知山之孤峻；如石含玉，不知玉之無瑕。譬如猛火聚，近之則燎却面門，又如按太阿劍，擬之則喪身失命。便可以不須說事不須說理，不行棒不行喝，不立主不立賓，見山不是山，見水不是水，全體恁麼來，全體恁麼去，總無許多露布葛藤聲色邊事。且超然獨脫一句作麼生道？還委悉麼？萬丈縣崖須撒手，大千沙界始全身。」 > At an informal gathering, the Master said: "To exclusively speak of phenomena and speak of principle, discuss the wondrous and discuss the profound, talk of mind and talk of nature, is to fall into a nest of entangled vines. To exclusively wield the staff and give shouts, establish illumination and establish function, retain rolling up and retain spreading out, is to fall into a grove of thorns. Furthermore, to bring up past and present, speak of the biased and speak of the correct, establish host and establish guest, is also scattering sand and throwing dirt. If suddenly you see mountains as mountains, see waters as waters, monks as monks, and laity as laity, you fall within the realm of non-affair. Even if you completely avoid being like this, it is very much like a sacred turtle dragging its tail; even if the solitary substance is solely clear, it is still a fox clinging to its den. If you have a way to turn your body and get out, you will be like the earth bearing mountains, unaware of the steep solitude of the mountains; like a stone containing jade, unaware of the jade's lack of flaws. It is like a mass of blazing fire: approach it, and it scorches your face; it is also like drawing the sword Tai'e: hesitate over it, and you forfeit your life and perish. Then you can have no need to speak of phenomena or speak of principle, no need to wield the staff or give shouts, no need to establish host or establish guest; seeing mountains is not mountains, seeing waters is not waters; the whole substance comes thus, and the whole substance goes thus; there are altogether none of those many affairs of open announcements, entangled vines, sounds and forms. But how do you say a phrase of transcendent solitary emancipation? Do you still understand? Over a precipitous cliff of ten thousand fathoms, you must let go of your hands; only then, in the great chiliocosm of worlds of sand, do you attain the whole body." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 10.20](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.10.20) - [Next: 10.22](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.10.22) - [Up: 10](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.10) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997~en-mt.10.21) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.10.21](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.10.21) · Pramāṇa