[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [圓悟佛果禪師語錄](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997) › 16.45 # 圓悟佛果禪師語錄 16.45 圓悟佛果禪師語錄 16.45 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [16.45](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.16.45) 舉：「長生問長慶：『混沌未分時如何？』慶云：『露柱懷胎。』生云：『分後如何？』慶云：『片雲點太清。』生云：『只如太清，還受點也無？』慶不對，生云：『恁麼則含生不來也。』慶亦不對，生云：『直得純清絕點時如何？』慶云：『猶是真常流注。』生云：『如何是真常流注？』慶云：『如鏡常明。』生云：『未審向上還有事也無？』慶云：『有。』生云：『如何是向上事？』慶云：『打鼓鏡來相見。』」師云：「長生善問，長慶善答，膠膝相投，水乳相合。不見古者道：『身從無相中受生，猶如幻出諸形相，幻人心識本來無，罪福皆空無所住。』若明此箇頌，便見二老宿問答，始知父母未生已前、既生之後，全體露現。且道：打破鏡來如何相見？」撫掌云：「了。」 > \[The Master\] cited: "Changsheng asked Changqing, 'How was it before chaos divided?' Changqing said, 'The exposed pillar is pregnant.' Sheng said, 'How is it after the division?' Qing said, 'A wisp of cloud flecks the great clear sky.' Sheng said, 'Take just the great clear sky—does it still admit of flecking or not?' Qing gave no answer. Sheng said, 'If so, then living beings do not come.' Qing again gave no answer. Sheng said, 'At the very point where it is purely clear and devoid of flecks, how is it then?' Qing said, 'It is still the flow of true constancy.' Sheng said, 'What is the flow of true constancy?' Qing said, 'Like a mirror ever bright.' Sheng said, 'I wonder, is there still a transcendent matter or not?' Qing said, 'There is.' Sheng said, 'What is the transcendent matter?' Qing said, 'Break the mirror and come meet.'" The Master said, "Changsheng was skilled at asking, and Changqing was skilled at answering: glue and lacquer joining together, water and milk blending. Have you not seen the ancient saying: 'The body receives birth from within the formless, / Just like conjuring forth various physical shapes; / The conjured person's mind and consciousness are originally nonexistent, / Sin and merit are both empty, having nowhere to abide.' If you understand this verse, then you will see the question and answer of the two venerable elders; only then will you know that before parents gave birth, and after they gave birth, the whole body is exposed and revealed. Tell me: having broken the mirror, how do you meet?" Clapping his hands, he said, "Finished." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 16.44](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.16.44) - [Next: 16.46](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.16.46) - [Up: 16](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.16) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997~en-mt.16.45) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.16.45](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1997.16.45) · Pramāṇa