[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [大慧普覺禪師語錄](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1998a) › 4.27 # 大慧普覺禪師語錄 4.27 大慧普覺禪師語錄 4.27 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [4.27](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1998a.4.27) 上堂，僧問：「古人道：『如人上樹，口銜樹枝手不攀枝，脚不蹋樹，未審還有答話分也無？』」師云：「答話了也。」輪云：「學人問樹上話，和尚為甚麼向樹下答？」師云：「只為爾在樹下問。」進云：「謾得大眾眼麼？」師云：「灼然謾不得。」進云：「只如樹子未生消息未動，香嚴向甚麼處得這箇話頭來？」師云：「向爾漆桶裏得來。」進云：「只如和尚道：『喚作竹篦則觸，不喚作竹篦則背。』還有為人處也無？」師云：「無。」進云：「恁麼則却成虛設。」師云：「虛設。」乃云：「如人上樹，口銜樹枝，手不攀枝，脚不蹋樹，樹下有人問西來意，答他則喪身失命，不答他，又違他所問。是時香嚴纔恁麼道，便有箇傍不肯底，喚作虎頭上座出眾云：『樹上即不問，樹下道將一句來。』」師云：「險。香嚴呵呵大笑。」師云：「險。徑山這兩險，有一險如天普蓋、似地普擎，有一險料掉沒交涉。還有揀得出者麼？若揀得出，非唯親見香嚴，亦使虎頭上座無安身立命處；如無，徑山將現成公案為爾諸人下箇註脚，喚作竹篦則觸，不喚作竹篦則背。」 > Ascending the hall, a monk asked: "An ancient said: 'It is like a man up a tree, holding a branch in his mouth, his hands not grasping a bough, and his feet not treading on the tree. I wonder, does he still have a share in answering words or not?'" The Master said: "He has already answered the words." The monk said: "The student asked about the words up the tree; why does the Venerable answer from under the tree?" The Master said: "Only because you asked from under the tree." The monk continued: "Can you deceive the eyes of the assembly?" The Master said: "Clearly, I cannot deceive them." The monk continued: "Just when the tree has not yet grown and news has not yet stirred, from where did Xiangyan get this huatou?" The Master said: "He got it from inside your lacquer bucket." The monk continued: "Just as the Venerable says: 'Calling it a bamboo comb violates; not calling it a bamboo comb opposes'—is there still a place to help people or not?" The Master said: "There is none." The monk continued: "If so, then it becomes set up in vain." The Master said: "Set up in vain." He then said: "'It is like a man up a tree, holding a branch in his mouth, his hands not grasping a bough, and his feet not treading on the tree. Someone under the tree asks about the meaning of the Patriarch's coming from the West: if he answers him, he loses his body and forfeits his life; if he does not answer him, he goes against what was asked.' At that time, Xiangyan had just said this when there was one who disapproved, called Senior Monk Hutou, who stepped forward from the assembly and said: 'I do not ask about up the tree; say a phrase from under the tree!'" The Master said: "Perilous! Xiangyan laughed heartily, 'Ha-ha!'" The Master said: "Perilous! Of these two 'perilous' of Jingshan, one is like heaven covering all, like earth supporting all; one is completely irrelevant and has no connection. Is there anyone who can distinguish them? If you can distinguish them, not only will you personally see Xiangyan, but you will also leave Senior Monk Hutou with no place to establish body and life. If not, Jingshan will provide a commentary on this ready-made gong'an for all of you: 'Calling it a bamboo comb violates; not calling it a bamboo comb opposes.'" > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 4.26](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1998a.4.26) - [Next: 4.28](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1998a.4.28) - [Up: 4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1998a.4) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1998a~en-mt.4.27) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1998a.4.27](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1998a.4.27) · Pramāṇa