[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [宏智禪師廣錄](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2001) › 3.53 # 宏智禪師廣錄 3.53 宏智禪師廣錄 3.53 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [3.53](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2001.3.53) 舉陸亘大夫。問南泉。弟子家中有一片石。有時坐有時臥。欲鐫作佛得否。泉云得。陸云。莫不得否。泉云不得。雲巖云。坐則佛。不坐則非佛。洞山云。不坐則佛。坐則非佛。師云。轉功就位。轉位就功。還他洞上父子。且道。南泉意作麼生。直是針錐不得。 > \[Hongzhi\] cited: Grand Master Lu Gen asked Nanquan, "In this disciple's home there is a slab of stone; at times I sit on it, at times I lie on it. If I wish to chisel it into a Buddha, may I do so?" Nanquan said, "You may." Lu said, "May I not do so?" Nanquan said, "You may not." Yunyan said, "If one sits on it, it is a Buddha; if one does not sit on it, it is not a Buddha." Dongshan said, "If one does not sit on it, it is a Buddha; if one sits on it, it is not a Buddha." The Master \[Hongzhi\] said, "Turning function to approach position; turning position to approach function—one must give credit to the father and son of Mount Dong. And tell me, what was Nanquan's meaning? Truly, a needle or awl cannot pierce it." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 3.52](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2001.3.52) - [Next: 3.54](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2001.3.54) - [Up: 3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2001.3) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2001~en-mt.3.53) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2001.3.53](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2001.3.53) · Pramāṇa