[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [萬松老人評唱天童覺和尚頌古從容庵錄](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2004) › 2.67 # 萬松老人評唱天童覺和尚頌古從容庵錄 2.67 萬松老人評唱天童覺和尚頌古從容庵錄 2.67 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [2.67](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2004.2.67) 師云。法眼齋前上參。以手指簾。二僧同去捲簾。眼曰。一得一失。東禪齊云。上座作麼生會。有云。為伊不明旨。便去捲簾。亦有道。指者則會。不指而去者則失。恁麼會還可不可。既不許恁麼會。且問。上座阿那箇得。阿那箇失。萬松道。泥裏洗土塊。此非但法眼。南泉一日謂僧曰。夜來好風。僧亦曰。夜來好風。泉曰。吹折門前一株松。僧亦曰。吹折門前一株松。泉次謂一僧曰。夜來好風。僧曰。是什麼風。泉曰。吹折門前一株松。僧曰。是什麼松。泉曰。一得一失。指簾話極有為人作略。二僧捲簾。在當人分上。自有兩條路子。法眼先與一印。印定更無移改。在法眼分上。明暗相參。殺活機。大人境界普賢知。諸方皆以離得失忘是非為上。法眼走入是非海裏得失坑中。作活計。蓋無得失人。可以定天下之得失。萬松恁麼。提唱也有得有失。諸人恁麼。上來也有得有失。唯深明利害之端者。可以較其損益。孫箇喚做現成公案。不勞再勘。為伊不能倒斷。不免天童引惹詞訟。頌云。 > The Master said: Fayan went up to address the assembly before the meal and pointed to the blind with his hand. Two monks went together to roll up the blind. Fayan said, "One has it, one loses it." / Dongshan Qi said, "How do you Venerables understand this? Some say that because they did not understand the essential meaning, they immediately went to roll up the blind. Others say that the one who pointed understood, while the one who went without pointing lost it. Can one understand it this way or not? Since understanding it this way is not permitted, let me ask: Venerables, which one has it, and which one loses it?" / Wansong says: Washing a clod of dirt in the mud. / This was not only Fayan. One day Nanquan said to a monk, "A fine wind last night." The monk also said, "A fine wind last night." Nanquan said, "It blew down and snapped a pine tree in front of the gate." The monk also said, "It blew down and snapped a pine tree in front of the gate." Nanquan then said to another monk, "A fine wind last night." The monk said, "What wind?" Nanquan said, "It blew down and snapped a pine tree in front of the gate." The monk said, "What pine?" Nanquan said, "One has it, one loses it." / The case of pointing to the blind has an exceptional strategy for guiding people. The two monks rolling up the blind: on each person's part, there were naturally two different paths. Fayan stamped them beforehand with a single seal, sealed firmly with no further alteration. On Fayan's part: light and dark intermingle, a dynamic of killing and bringing to life; the realm of great beings, known by Samantabhadra. The various quarters all consider leaving behind gain and loss and forgetting right and wrong to be supreme. Fayan ran right into the sea of right and wrong, into the pit of gain and loss, to make his living. For only one who is free of gain and loss can determine the gain and loss of the world. / When Wansong brings it up like this, there is also gain and loss. When you all come forward like this, there is also gain and loss. Only one who deeply understands the origins of advantage and harm can weigh their loss and gain. Sun calls this a ready-made gong'an that does not require re-examination. Because he could not settle it decisively, Tiantong could not avoid instigating a lawsuit. His verse says: > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 2.66](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2004.2.66) - [Next: 2.68](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2004.2.68) - [Up: 2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2004.2) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2004~en-mt.2.67) — English, machine translation ## Linked texts (1) - [金陵清涼院文益禪師語錄](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1991.1.42) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2004.2.67](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2004.2.67) · Pramāṇa