[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [佛祖歷代通載](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2036) › 5.61 # 佛祖歷代通載 5.61 佛祖歷代通載 5.61 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [5.61](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2036.5.61) 問曰。如子之言。徒當學辨達修言論。豈復治情性履道德乎。牟子曰。何難悟之甚乎。夫言語談論各有時也。蘧瑗曰。國有道則直。國無道則卷而懷之。寧武子曰。國有道則智。國無道則愚。孔子曰。可與言而不與言失人。不可與言而與言失言。故智愚自有時。談論各有意。何為當言論而不行哉。 > Question: "According to your words, sir, one should merely study eloquent discourse and cultivate discussions. How could one further regulate one's emotions and nature or tread the Dao and virtue?" > > Mouzi said: "How excessively difficult it is for you to awaken! Speech and discussion each have their proper time. Qu Yuan said, 'When the state possesses the Way, one is straightforward; when the state lacks the Way, one rolls up \[one's principles\] and keeps them in one's bosom.' Ning Wuzi said, 'When the state possesses the Way, one shows wisdom; when the state lacks the Way, one shows foolishness.' Confucius said, 'To fail to speak with someone who can be spoken with is to lose a person; to speak with someone who cannot be spoken with is to lose one's words.' Therefore, wisdom and foolishness naturally have their proper times; discussions each have their intention. Why must one engage in discussion without putting it into practice?" > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 5.60](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2036.5.60) - [Next: 5.62](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2036.5.62) - [Up: 5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2036.5) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2036~en-mt.5.61) — English, machine translation ## Linked texts (1) - [弘明集](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2102.1.34) — 僧祐, Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2036.5.61](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2036.5.61) · Pramāṇa