[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [弘明集](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2102) › 4.34 # 弘明集 4.34 弘明集 4.34 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [4.34](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2102.4.34) 釋曰。非唯不嫌有鬼。乃謂有必有形足下不無是同處有復異。是以比及質詰。欲以求盡。請捨天竺之說。謹依中土之經。又置別為生類。共議登遐精靈體狀有無。固然宜報定。典策之中鬼神累萬。所不了者非其名號。比獲三論每來益眾。萬鬼畢至竟未片答。雖啟告周博非解企渴。無形之有既不匠立。徒謂支離以為通說。若以覈正為支離者。將以浮漫為直達乎。 > Explanation: Not only do I not dislike the existence of ghosts, I even say that what exists must have form. You do not deny their existence, which is identical, yet your conception of where existence lies is different. Therefore, in comparing and interrogating, I wish to seek exhaustiveness. Please put aside the teachings of Tianzhu and scrupulously rely on the scriptures of the Central Land. Also setting aside their being a separate class of living beings, let us jointly discuss whether the bodily appearance of the spirits that have ascended to the distance exists or not; this certainly ought to be determined in reply. In the records and tablets, ghosts and spirits number in the tens of thousands; what I do not comprehend is not their names and titles. Recently receiving your three treatises, with each arrival they become more numerous; ten thousand ghosts all arrive, yet ultimately there is not a scrap of an answer. Although your disclosures are comprehensive and broad, they do not relieve my eager thirst. Since an existent without form has not been skillfully established, you merely call it fragmented to make it a comprehensive doctrine. If taking investigation and rectification is called fragmented, do you take vague superficiality to be direct penetration? > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 4.33](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2102.4.33) - [Next: 4.35](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2102.4.35) - [Up: 4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2102.4) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2102~en-mt.4.34) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2102.4.34](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2102.4.34) · Pramāṇa