[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [廣弘明集](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103) › 21.24 # 廣弘明集 21.24 廣弘明集 21.24 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [21.24](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.24) 吳平世子蕭勵諮曰。通旨云。第一義諦世諦。褒貶立名。真俗二諦定體立名。尋真諦之理既妙絕言慮。未審云何有定體之旨。令旨答曰。談其無相無真不真。寄名相說以真定體。又諮。若真諦無體。今寄言辨體。未審真諦無相。何不寄言辨相。令旨答。寄言辯體猶恐貶德。若復寄言辯相則有累虛玄。又諮。真諦玄虛離於言說。今既稱有真。豈非寄言辯相。令旨答。寄有此名。名自是相。無傷此理無相虛寂。又諮。未審此寄言辯體。為是當理為不當理。令旨答。無名而說名不全當理。又諮。若寄言辯名。名不當理。未審此寄將何所說。令旨答。雖不當理。為接引眾生須名相說。 > Xiao Li, Heir Apparent of Wuping, inquired: "The general decree states: 'Supreme-meaning truth and worldly truth establish their names by appraisal and depreciation; the two truths of ultimate and conventional establish their names by determining the essence.' Inquiring into the principle of ultimate truth, it is already subtly beyond words and thoughts; I do not yet know how there can be the purpose of determining an essence." > The imperial decree answered: "Speaking of its marklessness, there is neither true nor untrue; relying on names and marks, one speaks of it by determining the essence as true." > \[Xiao Li\] also inquired: "If ultimate truth has no essence, and now one relies on words to discern its essence, I do not yet know: ultimate truth being without marks, why not rely on words to discern marks?" > The imperial decree answered: "Relying on words to discern essence, one still fears depreciating its virtue; if one furthermore relied on words to discern marks, it would burden the void and profound." > \[Xiao Li\] also inquired: "Ultimate truth is profound, void, and free from verbal expression. Now since one speaks of having the true, is this not relying on words to discern marks?" > The imperial decree answered: "One borrows the existence of this name; the name itself is a mark. It does no harm to this principle being markless, void, and quiescent." > \[Xiao Li\] also inquired: "I do not yet know: does this relying on words to discern essence match the principle, or does it not match the principle?" > The imperial decree answered: "Speaking where there are no names, the names do not entirely match the principle." > \[Xiao Li\] also inquired: "If relying on words to discern names means that names do not match the principle, I do not yet know what this reliance will express." > The imperial decree answered: "Although it does not match the principle, in order to guide and receive sentient beings, one must speak through names and marks." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 21.23](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.23) - [Next: 21.25](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.25) - [Up: 21](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103~en-mt.21.24) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.24](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.24) · Pramāṇa