[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [廣弘明集](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103) › 21.25 # 廣弘明集 21.25 廣弘明集 21.25 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [21.25](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.25) 宋熙寺慧令諮曰。真諦以不生為體。俗諦以生法為體。而言不生即生。生即不生。為當體中相即。為當義中相即。令旨答云。體中相即。義不相即。又諮。義既不即。體云何即。令旨答。凡見其有。聖覩其無。約見成異。就體恒即。又諮。體既無兩何事須即。令旨答。若體無別兩緣見有兩。見既兩異須明體即。又諮。若如解旨。果是就人明即。令旨答。約人見為二。二諦所以名生。就人見明即此亦大妨。 > Huiling of Songxi Temple inquired, saying: "The ultimate truth takes non-arising as its substance, while the conventional truth takes arisen phenomena as its substance. Yet it is said that non-arising is precisely arising, and arising is precisely non-arising. Does this mutual identity occur within their substance, or does this mutual identity occur within their meaning?" > The Prince's decree replied, saying: "They are mutually identical within their substance; they are not mutually identical in meaning." > He further inquired: "If they are not identical in meaning, how can they be identical in substance?" > The decree replied: "Worldlings see its existence, while sages behold its non-existence. In terms of perception, differences are established; with respect to the substance, they are ever identical." > He further inquired: "If the substance is not dual, why must there be identity?" > The decree replied: "Though the substance is without distinct duality, because of conditions and perceptions there is duality. Since perceptions are dual and different, it must be clarified that the substance is identical." > He further inquired: "If it is according to the decreed explanation, is the identity truly clarified with respect to persons?" > The decree replied: "In terms of persons' perceptions, there are two, and this is why the two truths are designated as arisen. If one clarifies identity purely with respect to persons' perceptions, this also involves a great impediment." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 21.24](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.24) - [Next: 21.26](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.26) - [Up: 21](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103~en-mt.21.25) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.25](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.25) · Pramāṇa