[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [廣弘明集](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103) › 21.35 # 廣弘明集 21.35 廣弘明集 21.35 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [21.35](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.35) 光宅寺敬脫諮曰。未審聖人見真。為當漸見。為當頓見。令旨答曰。漸見。又諮。無相虛懷。一見此現萬相並寂。未審何故見真得有由漸。令旨答曰。自凡之聖。解有淺深真自虛寂。不妨見有由漸。又諮。未審一得無相並忘萬有。為不悉忘。令旨答。一得無相萬有悉忘。又諮。一得無相忘萬有者。亦可一得虛懷窮彼真境。不應漸見。令旨答。如來會寂自是窮真。淺行聖人恒自漸見。又諮。若見真有漸不可頓會。亦應漸忘萬有不可頓忘。令旨答。解有優劣故有漸見。忘懷無偏故萬有並寂。 > Jingtuo of Guangzhai Temple inquired, saying: "I do not know: when a sage perceives the true, does he perceive it gradually, or does he perceive it suddenly?" > The Prince's decree replied, saying: "He perceives it gradually." > He further inquired: "With a signless and empty mind, once this appears, the myriad signs are all stilled. I do not know: why should perceiving the true involve a gradual process?" > The Prince's decree replied, saying: "From worldling to sage, understanding has shallows and depths; the true of itself is open and quiescent, which does not prevent perception from having a gradual process." > He further inquired: "I do not know: when one attains signlessness once, are the myriad existences all forgotten, or are they not completely forgotten?" > The decree replied: "Once one attains signlessness, the myriad existences are completely forgotten." > He further inquired: "If once one attains signlessness the myriad existences are forgotten, then one could also, upon once attaining an empty mind, exhaust that true realm; one should not perceive it gradually." > The decree replied: "The Tathāgata's accord with quiescence naturally exhausts the true; sages of shallow practice ever perceive it gradually of themselves." > He further inquired: "If perceiving the true has gradations and cannot be suddenly realized, then forgetting the myriad existences should also be gradual and cannot be sudden." > The decree replied: "Because understanding has superior and inferior levels, there is gradual perception; because the emptying of mind is impartial, the myriad existences are all stilled together." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 21.34](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.34) - [Next: 21.36](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.36) - [Up: 21](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103~en-mt.21.35) — English, machine translation --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.35](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2103.21.35) · Pramāṇa