[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [集沙門不應拜俗等事](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2108) › 2.39 # 集沙門不應拜俗等事 2.39 集沙門不應拜俗等事 2.39 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [2.39](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2108.2.39) 齊武帝。大明中勅定林上寺僧法獻。長干寺僧玄暢。於三吳沙簡僧尼。時暢獻二僧皆少習律檢。不競當世。與武帝共語。每稱名而不坐。後中興僧鍾於乾和殿見帝。帝問。鍾如宜鍾。答貧道比苦氣。帝嫌之。迺問尚書王儉。北地沙門與王共語。何所稱又正殿坐不。儉答。漢魏佛法未是大興。不見記傳。自偽國稍盛皆稱貧道亦預坐。及晉初亦然。中代有庾氷桓玄等。欲使沙門盡敬。朝議紛紜事皆休寢。宋之中朝亦頗令致禮。而尋竟不行。自爾迄今。多預坐而稱貧道。帝曰。暢獻二僧道業如此。尚自稱名。況復餘者。挹拜則太甚稱名亦無嫌。自爾沙門皆稱名於帝王。自暢獻始也。 > During the Daming era, Emperor Wu of the Qi decreed that the monk Faxian of Upper Dinglin Temple and the monk Xuanchang of Changgan Temple screen and select the monks and nuns in Sanwu. At that time, both monks Chang and Xian had practiced the disciplinary rules from their youth and did not compete in worldly matters. Whenever they conversed with Emperor Wu, they always called themselves by their names and did not sit. Later, the monk Zhong of Zhongxing \[Temple\] had an audience with the Emperor in the Qianhe Hall. The Emperor asked: "Is Zhong well?" Zhong replied: "This poor daoren has recently suffered from qi illness." The Emperor was displeased by this. He then asked Wang Jian, the Minister of the Department of State Affairs: "When the śramaṇas of the northern regions converse with kings, what do they call themselves? And do they sit in the main hall?" Jian replied: "During the Han and Wei, the Buddha-Dharma was not yet widely flourishing, and no records or transmissions are seen. Ever since the illegitimate northern states grew somewhat prosperous, \[monks there\] have all called themselves 'poor daoren' and have also been granted seats. It was also like this at the beginning of the Jin. In the middle period, there were Yu Bing, Huan Xuan, and others who wished to make śramaṇas pay full homage, but the court debates were so contentious that the matter was abandoned each time. During the middle of the Song dynasty, they were also somewhat ordered to offer homage, but before long it was completely abandoned. From then until now, most have been granted seats and have called themselves 'poor daoren.'" The Emperor said: "Monks Chang and Xian had religious accomplishments such as theirs, yet they still called themselves by their names; how much more so should the rest? Making formal bows is too excessive, but calling oneself by name carries no objection." From that time on, śramaṇas all called themselves by their names before emperors and kings; this began with Chang and Xian. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 2.38](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2108.2.38) - [Next: 2.40](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2108.2.40) - [Up: 2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2108.2) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2108~en-mt.2.39) — English, machine translation ## Linked texts (1) - [高僧傳](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2059.13.21) — 慧皎, Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2108.2.39](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2108.2.39) · Pramāṇa