[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [淨名經集解關中疏](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2777) › 2.455 # 淨名經集解關中疏 2.455 淨名經集解關中疏 2.455 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [2.455](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2777.2.455) 爾時舍利弗問維摩詰。汝於何沒而來生此　二論生滅文三。舍利弗問。二淨名約幻況出。三釋其生滅。前文又四。此初身子問也。離生滅見不生滅者。二乘之見非實相義。若即因緣生滅悟不生滅者。此法身義也。有此差別故再論焉。上雖具顯百非。今但論於生滅。若悟生則無生。自然無生。無生自然。自然眾非可見矣。肇曰。上云如自觀身實相。實相無生而今現有生。將成其自觀之義故以沒生問也維摩詰言。汝所得法有沒生乎　二反質也。肇曰。逆問所得以證無沒生也。所得法即無為無相法也。 > At that time Śāriputra asked Vimalakīrti: "From where did you pass away to come and be born here?" / Second, discussing birth and cessation, in three sections: Śāriputra asks; second, Jingming adduces an illusion as an illustration; third, explaining its birth and cessation. The previous text has four parts; this is first, Śāriputra's question. One who departs from birth and cessation to see non-birth and non-cessation holds the view of the two vehicles, not the meaning of the true mark. If one awakens to non-birth and non-cessation precisely within conditioned birth and cessation, this is the meaning of the dharmakāya. Because there is this distinction, it is discussed again. Although all hundred negations were fully revealed above, now it only discusses birth and cessation. If one awakens to birth as being without birth, it is naturally unborn; being unborn is natural, and naturally all negations can be seen. Zhao says: Above it said, 'Just as I contemplate the true mark of my own body.' The true mark is unborn, yet now he is manifested as being born; wishing to complete the meaning of his own contemplation, he therefore asks about passing away and being born. Vimalakīrti said, "Does the dharma you have attained involve passing away and being born?" / Second, counter-questioning. Zhao says: He asks back about what has been attained to prove there is no passing away or being born. The dharma attained is precisely the unconditioned and characteristicless dharma. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 2.454](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2777.2.454) - [Next: 2.456](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2777.2.456) - [Up: 2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2777.2) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2777~en-mt.2.455) — English, machine translation ## Linked texts (2) - [注維摩詰經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1775.9.376) — Classical Chinese - [維摩詰所說經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.mahayanasutra.vimalakirtinirdesa*zh-kumarajiva.3.57) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2777.2.455](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2777.2.455) · Pramāṇa