[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [Taishō Tripiṭaka (Chinese Buddhist canon)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho) › [大乘起信論廣釋卷第三．四．五](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2814) › 4.16 # 大乘起信論廣釋卷第三．四．五 4.16 大乘起信論廣釋卷第三．四．五 4.16 - **Language:** Classical Chinese ### [4.16](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2814.4.16) 論。云何為二至不相應故　釋曰。此列名略辨也。所言麁者。即前三染。有心心所麁顯之相。經中說為相生滅也。與心相應者。釋麁義也。謂有境界及有心所。與此三種染心相應故。此三染而名麁。非謂此與真心相應及是心所與心相應。新論說為相應心故。所言細者。即後三染無心心所麁顯之相。其體微細恒流不絕。經中說為流注。生滅與心不相應者。釋細義也。謂無境界及諸心所。與彼三種染心相應故。後三染名之為細。非與真心不相應也。新論說為不相應心故。此四卷楞伽經說。若七十卷二本經說。識有二種滅。一者相滅。二者相續滅。生住亦如是。經中出名不別顯相故。今論主約於相應及不相應及不相應麁細二義顯其二種生滅之相。 > Treatise: "What are the two? \[...\] because they are non-conjoined." Commentary: This lists the names and briefly discriminates them. What is called "coarse" refers to the former three defilements, which have the coarse and manifest characteristics of mind and cetasikas; in the sūtras this is spoken of as the arising and ceasing of characteristics. "Conjoined with mind" explains the meaning of coarse: it means there are realms of objects and there are cetasikas conjoined with these three kinds of defiled mind; therefore these three defilements are called coarse. It does not mean that they are conjoined with the true mind, nor that cetasikas are conjoined with mind; for the new translation calls them "conjoined mind". What is called "subtle" refers to the latter three defilements, which lack the coarse and manifest characteristics of mind and cetasikas; their substance is subtle and flows constantly without interruption; in the sūtras this is spoken of as the arising and ceasing of the flux. "Not conjoined with mind" explains the meaning of subtle: it means there are no realms of objects and no cetasikas conjoined with those three kinds of defiled mind; therefore the latter three defilements are called subtle. It does not mean that they are not conjoined with the true mind; for the new translation calls them "non-conjoined mind". This is spoken of in the four-fascicle Laṅkāvatāra-sūtra; in the two versions of the seventy-fascicle and ten-fascicle sūtras, it says that consciousness has two kinds of cessation: first, cessation of characteristics; second, cessation of continuity. Arising and abiding are also like this. In the sūtras the names are brought forth without distinctively showing their characteristics; therefore, the author of the treatise now relies on the two meanings of conjoined and non-conjoined, and coarse and subtle, to reveal the characteristics of the two kinds of arising and ceasing. > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 4.15](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2814.4.15) - [Next: 4.17](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2814.4.17) - [Up: 4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2814.4) ## Translations (1) - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2814~en-mt.4.16) — English, machine translation ## Linked texts (2) - [大乘起信論義記](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.1846.3.59) — Classical Chinese - [大乘起信論略述](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2813.1.167) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2814.4.16](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.taisho.2814.4.16) · Pramāṇa