Kathavatthu 17.2.2
Kathāvatthu 17.2.2
- Language
- Pāli
17.2.2.1
Natthi arahato akālamaccūti?
Is there no untimely death for an arahant?
Again, you admit that poison, weapons, or fire may get access to the body of an Arahant. It is therefore clear that an Arahant may suffer sudden death. But if you deny, then there can be no murderer.
17.2.2.2
Āmantā.
Yes.
17.2.2.3
Arahato kāye visaṃ na kameyya, satthaṃ na kameyya, aggi na kameyyāti?
Would poison not affect the arahant’s body, a weapon not affect it, fire not affect it?
17.2.2.4
Na hevaṃ vattabbe …pe…
It should not be said thus …pe…
17.2.2.5
nanu arahato kāye visaṃ kameyya, satthaṃ kameyya, aggi kameyyāti?
Would not poison affect the arahant’s body, a weapon affect it, fire affect it?
17.2.2.6
Āmantā.
Yes.
17.2.2.7
Hañci arahato kāye visaṃ kameyya, satthaṃ kameyya, aggi kameyya, no ca vata re vattabbe—
If poison would affect the arahant’s body, a weapon would affect it, fire would affect it, then indeed it should not be said:
17.2.2.8
“natthi arahato akālamaccū”ti.
“There is no untimely death for an arahant.”
Translations (2)
- Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse — Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, English
- English (machine translation) — English, machine translation
Commentaries (2)
- Mūlaṭīkā — Ānanda (Vanaratana), Pāli
- Pañcappakaraṇaṭṭhakathā — Buddhaghosa, Pāli