Kathavatthu 17.2.4

17.2.4.1

Atthi arahato akālamaccūti?

Is there untimely death for an arahant?

Rājagirika, Siddhatthika: But was it not said by the Exalted One:

17.2.4.2

Āmantā.

Yes.

Rājagirika, Siddhatthika: But was it not said by the Exalted One:

17.2.4.3

Nanu vuttaṃ bhagavatā—

Was it not said by the Blessed One:

Rājagirika, Siddhatthika: But was it not said by the Exalted One:

17.2.4.4

“nāhaṃ, bhikkhave, sañcetanikānaṃ kammānaṃ katānaṃ upacitānaṃ appaṭisaṃveditvā byantībhāvaṃ vadāmi;

“Monks, I do not say that there is an end of intentional deeds that have been done and accumulated without having experienced [their results];

“I declare, bhikkhus, that there cannot be destruction of karmic energy ere the outcome of deeds that have been deliberately wrought and conserved has been experienced, whether that destruction be under present conditions, or in the next or in a subsequent series of conditions”?

17.2.4.5

tañca kho diṭṭheva dhamme upapajjaṃ vā apare vā pariyāye”ti.

and that too either in this very life, or in the next rebirth, or on some subsequent occasion”?

“I declare, bhikkhus, that there cannot be destruction of karmic energy ere the outcome of deeds that have been deliberately wrought and conserved has been experienced, whether that destruction be under present conditions, or in the next or in a subsequent series of conditions”?

17.2.4.6

Attheva suttantoti?

Is there such a sutta passage?

Hence there is no untimely dying for an Arahant.

17.2.4.7

Āmantā.

Yes.

Hence there is no untimely dying for an Arahant.

17.2.4.8

Tena hi natthi arahato akālamaccūti.

Then there is no untimely death for an arahant.

Hence there is no untimely dying for an Arahant.

17.2.4.9

Natthi arahato akālamaccūtikathā niṭṭhitā.

The discussion on whether there is no untimely death for an arahant is finished.