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Kathavatthu 2.11.7

Kathāvatthu 2.11.7

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2.11.7.1

Dve nirodhāti?

Are there two cessations?

English (machine translation) (machine translation)

Again, the latter class (i.e., things which have ceased by deep reflection) does not, according to you, ever arise again. Then you must also admit this of the former class—but you do not … Hence cessation is really one, not two.

Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse

2.11.7.2

Āmantā.

Yes.

English (machine translation) (machine translation)

Again, the latter class (i.e., things which have ceased by deep reflection) does not, according to you, ever arise again. Then you must also admit this of the former class—but you do not … Hence cessation is really one, not two.

Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse

2.11.7.3

Paṭisaṅkhāniruddhā saṅkhārā na puna uppajjantīti?

Do volitional formations that have ceased by reflection not arise again?

English (machine translation) (machine translation)

Again, the latter class (i.e., things which have ceased by deep reflection) does not, according to you, ever arise again. Then you must also admit this of the former class—but you do not … Hence cessation is really one, not two.

Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse

2.11.7.4

Āmantā.

Yes.

English (machine translation) (machine translation)

Again, the latter class (i.e., things which have ceased by deep reflection) does not, according to you, ever arise again. Then you must also admit this of the former class—but you do not … Hence cessation is really one, not two.

Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse

2.11.7.5

Appaṭisaṅkhāniruddhā saṅkhārā na puna uppajjantīti?

Do volitional formations that have ceased without reflection not arise again?

English (machine translation) (machine translation)

Again, the latter class (i.e., things which have ceased by deep reflection) does not, according to you, ever arise again. Then you must also admit this of the former class—but you do not … Hence cessation is really one, not two.

Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse

2.11.7.6

Na hevaṃ vattabbe …pe…

It should not be said thus …pe…

English (machine translation) (machine translation)

Again, the latter class (i.e., things which have ceased by deep reflection) does not, according to you, ever arise again. Then you must also admit this of the former class—but you do not … Hence cessation is really one, not two.

Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse

2.11.7.7

tena hi na vattabbaṃ—

Therefore it should not be said:

English (machine translation) (machine translation)

Again, the latter class (i.e., things which have ceased by deep reflection) does not, according to you, ever arise again. Then you must also admit this of the former class—but you do not … Hence cessation is really one, not two.

Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse

2.11.7.8

“dve nirodhā”ti.

“There are two cessations.”

English (machine translation) (machine translation)

Again, the latter class (i.e., things which have ceased by deep reflection) does not, according to you, ever arise again. Then you must also admit this of the former class—but you do not … Hence cessation is really one, not two.

Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse

2.11.7.9

Nirodhakathā niṭṭhitā.

The discussion on cessation is finished.

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2.11.7.10

Dutiyo vaggo.

The second chapter.

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2.11.7.11

Tassuddānaṃ

Its summary verse:

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