Kathavatthu 20.6.2

20.6.2.1

Na vattabbaṃ—

Should it not be said:

20.6.2.2

“dvādasavatthukaṃ ñāṇaṃ lokuttaran”ti?

“Knowledge having twelve bases is supramundane”?

20.6.2.3

Āmantā.

Yes.

20.6.2.4

Nanu vuttaṃ bhagavatā—

Was it not said by the Blessed One:

Pubbaseliya: But was it not said by the Exalted One:

20.6.2.5

“‘idaṃ dukkhaṃ ariyasaccan’ti me, bhikkhave, pubbe ananussutesu dhammesu cakkhuṃ udapādi, ñāṇaṃ udapādi, paññā udapādi, vijjā udapādi, āloko udapādi.

“‘This is the noble truth of suffering’—thus, monks, regarding things unheard before, vision arose, knowledge arose, wisdom arose, higher knowledge arose, light arose.

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.6

‘Taṃ kho panidaṃ dukkhaṃ ariyasaccaṃ pariññeyyan’ti me, bhikkhave …pe…

‘This noble truth of suffering is to be fully understood’—thus, monks …

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.7

pariññātanti me, bhikkhave …pe…

‘has been fully understood’—thus, monks …

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.8

‘idaṃ dukkhasamudayaṃ ariyasaccan’ti me, bhikkhave …pe…

‘This is the noble truth of the origin of suffering’—thus, monks …

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.9

‘taṃ kho panidaṃ dukkhasamudayaṃ ariyasaccaṃ pahātabban’ti me, bhikkhave …pe…

‘This noble truth of the origin of suffering is to be abandoned’—thus, monks …

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.10

pahīnanti me, bhikkhave …pe…

‘has been abandoned’—thus, monks …

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.11

‘idaṃ dukkhanirodhaṃ ariyasaccan’ti me, bhikkhave …pe…

‘This is the noble truth of the cessation of suffering’—thus, monks …”?

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.12

‘taṃ kho panidaṃ dukkhanirodhaṃ ariyasaccaṃ sacchikātabban’ti me, bhikkhave …pe…

‘Now, this noble truth of the cessation of suffering is to be directly experienced,’ monks …

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.13

sacchikatanti me, bhikkhave …pe…

‘has been directly experienced,’ monks …

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.14

‘idaṃ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā ariyasaccan’ti me, bhikkhave …pe…

‘This is the noble truth of the way leading to the cessation of suffering,’ monks …

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.15

‘taṃ kho panidaṃ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā ariyasaccaṃ bhāvetabban’ti me, bhikkhave …pe…

‘Now, this noble truth of the way leading to the cessation of suffering is to be developed,’ monks …

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.16

bhāvitanti me, bhikkhave, pubbe ananussutesu dhammesu cakkhuṃ udapādi …pe…

‘has been developed,’ monks: regarding things unheard before, vision arose …

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.17

āloko udapādī”ti.

light arose.”

“(A, i.) That this Ariyan Truth concerning Ill, O bhikkhus, was not among the doctrines handed down, but there arose in me the vision, there arose in me the insight (ñāṇaṃ), there arose in me the wisdom, there arose in me the understanding, there arose in me the light; (ii.) that this Ariyan fact of Ill must be comprehended; (iii.) that it was comprehended; (B, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cause of Ill; (ii.) that the Cause of Ill was to be put away …; (iii.) was put away; (C, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that this Cessation was to be realized; (iii.) had been realized; (D, i.) that this was the Ariyan Truth concerning the Path going to the Cessation of Ill; (ii.) that that Path was to be developed; (iii.) that it had been developed”?

20.6.2.18

Attheva suttantoti?

Is there such a discourse?

Hence surely the insight based on these twelve parts is spiritual.

20.6.2.19

Āmantā.

Yes.

Hence surely the insight based on these twelve parts is spiritual.

20.6.2.20

Tena hi dvādasavatthukaṃ ñāṇaṃ lokuttaranti.

Therefore knowledge having twelve bases is supramundane.

Hence surely the insight based on these twelve parts is spiritual.

20.6.2.21

Ñāṇakathā niṭṭhitā.

Discussion of knowledge is finished.

20.6.2.22

Vīsatimo vaggo.

Twentieth chapter.

20.6.2.23

Tassuddānaṃ

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