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Kathavatthu 8.2.5

Kathāvatthu 8.2.5

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8.2.5.1

Atthi rūpabhavo, rūpabhavo bhavo gati sattāvāso saṃsāro yoni viññāṇaṭṭhiti attabhāvapaṭilābhoti?

There is material existence, and is material existence a realm of existence, a destination, an abode of beings, a wandering-on, a womb, a station of consciousness, an acquisition of personal individuality?

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8.2.5.2

Āmantā.

Yes.

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8.2.5.3

Atthi antarābhavo, antarābhavo bhavo gati sattāvāso saṃsāro yoni viññāṇaṭṭhiti attabhāvapaṭilābhoti?

There is an intermediate state of existence, and is the intermediate state of existence a realm of existence, a destination, an abode of beings, a wandering-on, a womb, a station of consciousness, an acquisition of personal individuality?

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8.2.5.4

Na hevaṃ vattabbe …pe…

It should not be said thus …pe…

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8.2.5.5

atthi rūpabhavūpagaṃ kammanti?

is there kamma conducive to material existence?

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8.2.5.6

Āmantā.

Yes.

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8.2.5.7

Atthi antarābhavūpagaṃ kammanti?

Is there kamma conducive to an intermediate state of existence?

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8.2.5.8

Na hevaṃ vattabbe …pe…

It should not be said thus …pe…

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8.2.5.9

atthi rūpabhavūpagā sattāti?

are there beings who go to material existence?

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8.2.5.10

Āmantā.

Yes.

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8.2.5.11

Atthi antarābhavūpagā sattāti?

Are there beings who go to an intermediate state of existence?

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8.2.5.12

Na hevaṃ vattabbe …pe…

It should not be said thus …pe…

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8.2.5.13

rūpabhave sattā jāyanti jīyanti mīyanti cavanti upapajjantīti?

in material existence, are beings born, do they age, die, pass away, and reappear?

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8.2.5.14

Āmantā.

Yes.

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8.2.5.15

Antarābhave sattā jāyanti jīyanti mīyanti cavanti upapajjantīti?

In the intermediate state of existence, are beings born, do they age, die, pass away, and reappear?

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8.2.5.16

Na hevaṃ vattabbe …pe…

It should not be said thus …pe…

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8.2.5.17

rūpabhave atthi rūpaṃ vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇanti?

in material existence, is there material form, feeling, perception, volitional formations, consciousness?

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8.2.5.18

Āmantā.

Yes.

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8.2.5.19

Antarābhave atthi rūpaṃ vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇanti?

In the intermediate state of existence, is there material form, feeling, perception, volitional formations, consciousness?

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8.2.5.20

Na hevaṃ vattabbe …pe…

It should not be said thus …pe…

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8.2.5.21

rūpabhavo pañcavokārabhavoti?

is material existence a five-aggregate existence?

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8.2.5.22

Āmantā.

Yes.

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8.2.5.23

Antarābhavo pañcavokārabhavoti?

Is the intermediate state of existence a five-aggregate existence?

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8.2.5.24

Na hevaṃ vattabbe …pe….

It should not be said thus …pe….

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