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Kathavatthu 9.7.3

Kathāvatthu 9.7.3

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9.7.3.1

Sabbaṃ cittaṃ vitakkānupatitanti?

Is all consciousness accompanied by applied thought?

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9.7.3.2

Āmantā.

Yes.

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9.7.3.3

Nanu atthi avitakko avicāro samādhīti?

Is there not concentration without thought and without examination?

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9.7.3.4

Āmantā.

Yes.

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9.7.3.5

Hañci atthi avitakko avicāro samādhi, no ca vata re vattabbe—

If there is concentration without thought and without examination, then indeed one should not say:

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9.7.3.6

“sabbaṃ cittaṃ vitakkānupatitan”ti.

“All consciousness is accompanied by thought.”

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9.7.3.7

Sabbaṃ cittaṃ vitakkānupatitanti?

Is all consciousness accompanied by thought?

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9.7.3.8

Āmantā.

Yes.

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9.7.3.9

Nanu tayo samādhī vuttā bhagavatā—

Were not three concentrations spoken of by the Blessed One:

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9.7.3.10

“savitakko savicāro samādhi, avitakko vicāramatto samādhi, avitakko avicāro samādhī”ti?

“Concentration with thought and with examination, concentration without thought with examination only, concentration without thought and without examination”?

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9.7.3.11

Āmantā.

Yes.

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9.7.3.12

Hañci tayo samādhī vuttā bhagavatā—

If three concentrations were spoken of by the Blessed One—

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Hence your proposition is wrong.

Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse

9.7.3.13

savitakko savicāro samādhi, avitakko vicāramatto samādhi, avitakko avicāro samādhi, no ca vata re vattabbe—

concentration with thought and with examination, concentration without thought with examination only, concentration without thought and without examination—then indeed one should not say:

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Hence your proposition is wrong.

Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse

9.7.3.14

“sabbaṃ cittaṃ vitakkānupatitan”ti.

“All consciousness is accompanied by thought.”

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Hence your proposition is wrong.

Shwe Zan Aung & Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids 1915, Points of Controversy, or Subjects of Discourse

9.7.3.15

Vitakkānupatitakathā niṭṭhitā.

The discussion on accompanied by thought is finished.

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