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Brahmajalasutta 2.25

Brahmajālasutta 2.25

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Pāli

2.25.1

Dutiye ca bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā kimāgamma kimārabbha amarāvikkhepikā tattha tattha pañhaṃ puṭṭhā samānā vācāvikkhepaṃ āpajjanti amarāvikkhepaṃ?

And what is the second ground on which they rely?

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2.25.2

Idha, bhikkhave, ekacco samaṇo vā brāhmaṇo vā ‘idaṃ kusalan’ti yathābhūtaṃ nappajānāti, ‘idaṃ akusalan’ti yathābhūtaṃ nappajānāti.

It’s when some ascetic or brahmin doesn’t truly understand what is skillful and what is unskillful.

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2.25.3

Tassa evaṃ hoti:

They think:

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2.25.4

‘ahaṃ kho “idaṃ kusalan”ti yathābhūtaṃ nappajānāmi, “idaṃ akusalan”ti yathābhūtaṃ nappajānāmi.

‘I don’t truly understand what is skillful and what is unskillful.

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2.25.5

Ahañce kho pana “idaṃ kusalan”ti yathābhūtaṃ appajānanto, “idaṃ akusalan”ti yathābhūtaṃ appajānanto, “idaṃ kusalan”ti vā byākareyyaṃ, “idaṃ akusalan”ti vā byākareyyaṃ, tattha me assa chando vā rāgo vā doso vā paṭigho vā.

If I were to declare that something was skillful or unskillful I might feel desire or greed or hate or aversion.

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2.25.6

Yattha me assa chando vā rāgo vā doso vā paṭigho vā, taṃ mamassa upādānaṃ.

That would be grasping on my part.

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2.25.7

Yaṃ mamassa upādānaṃ, so mamassa vighāto.

That would be stressful for me,

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2.25.8

Yo mamassa vighāto, so mamassa antarāyo’ti.

and that stress would be an obstacle.’

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2.25.9

Iti so upādānabhayā upādānaparijegucchā nevidaṃ kusalanti byākaroti, na panidaṃ akusalanti byākaroti, tattha tattha pañhaṃ puṭṭho samāno vācāvikkhepaṃ āpajjati amarāvikkhepaṃ:

So from fear and disgust with grasping they avoid stating whether something is skillful or unskillful. Whenever they’re asked a question, they resort to verbal flip-flops and endless flip-flops:

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2.25.10

‘evantipi me no; tathātipi me no; aññathātipi me no; notipi me no; no notipi me no’ti.

‘I don’t say it’s like this. I don’t say it’s like that. I don’t say it’s otherwise. I don’t say it’s not so. And I don’t deny it’s not so.’

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2.25.11

Idaṃ, bhikkhave, dutiyaṃ ṭhānaṃ, yaṃ āgamma yaṃ ārabbha eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā amarāvikkhepikā tattha tattha pañhaṃ puṭṭhā samānā vācāvikkhepaṃ āpajjanti amarāvikkhepaṃ.

This is the second ground on which some ascetics and brahmins rely when resorting to verbal flip-flops and endless flip-flops.

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