[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [The Pāli Canon](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada) › [Basket of Discourses](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp) › [Dīghanikāya](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha) › [Brahmajalasutta](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1) › 2.25 # Brahmajalasutta 2.25 Brahmajālasutta 2.25 - **Language:** Pāli ### [2.25.1](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25.1) Dutiye ca bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā kimāgamma kimārabbha amarāvikkhepikā tattha tattha pañhaṃ puṭṭhā samānā vācāvikkhepaṃ āpajjanti amarāvikkhepaṃ? > And what is the second ground on which they rely? > — The Divine Net ### [2.25.2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25.2) Idha, bhikkhave, ekacco samaṇo vā brāhmaṇo vā ‘idaṃ kusalan’ti yathābhūtaṃ nappajānāti, ‘idaṃ akusalan’ti yathābhūtaṃ nappajānāti. > It’s when some ascetic or brahmin doesn’t truly understand what is skillful and what is unskillful. > — The Divine Net ### [2.25.3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25.3) Tassa evaṃ hoti: > They think: > — The Divine Net ### [2.25.4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25.4) ‘ahaṃ kho “idaṃ kusalan”ti yathābhūtaṃ nappajānāmi, “idaṃ akusalan”ti yathābhūtaṃ nappajānāmi. > ‘I don’t truly understand what is skillful and what is unskillful. > — The Divine Net ### [2.25.5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25.5) Ahañce kho pana “idaṃ kusalan”ti yathābhūtaṃ appajānanto, “idaṃ akusalan”ti yathābhūtaṃ appajānanto, “idaṃ kusalan”ti vā byākareyyaṃ, “idaṃ akusalan”ti vā byākareyyaṃ, tattha me assa chando vā rāgo vā doso vā paṭigho vā. > If I were to declare that something was skillful or unskillful I might feel desire or greed or hate or aversion. > — The Divine Net ### [2.25.6](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25.6) Yattha me assa chando vā rāgo vā doso vā paṭigho vā, taṃ mamassa upādānaṃ. > That would be grasping on my part. > — The Divine Net ### [2.25.7](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25.7) Yaṃ mamassa upādānaṃ, so mamassa vighāto. > That would be stressful for me, > — The Divine Net ### [2.25.8](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25.8) Yo mamassa vighāto, so mamassa antarāyo’ti. > and that stress would be an obstacle.’ > — The Divine Net ### [2.25.9](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25.9) Iti so upādānabhayā upādānaparijegucchā nevidaṃ kusalanti byākaroti, na panidaṃ akusalanti byākaroti, tattha tattha pañhaṃ puṭṭho samāno vācāvikkhepaṃ āpajjati amarāvikkhepaṃ: > So from fear and disgust with grasping they avoid stating whether something is skillful or unskillful. Whenever they’re asked a question, they resort to verbal flip-flops and endless flip-flops: > — The Divine Net ### [2.25.10](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25.10) ‘evantipi me no; tathātipi me no; aññathātipi me no; notipi me no; no notipi me no’ti. > ‘I don’t say it’s like this. I don’t say it’s like that. I don’t say it’s otherwise. I don’t say it’s not so. And I don’t deny it’s not so.’ > — The Divine Net ### [2.25.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25.11) Idaṃ, bhikkhave, dutiyaṃ ṭhānaṃ, yaṃ āgamma yaṃ ārabbha eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā amarāvikkhepikā tattha tattha pañhaṃ puṭṭhā samānā vācāvikkhepaṃ āpajjanti amarāvikkhepaṃ. > This is the second ground on which some ascetics and brahmins rely when resorting to verbal flip-flops and endless flip-flops. > — The Divine Net ## Translations (5) - [Наставление о величайшей сети](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1~ru-khantibalo.2.25.1) — Russian - [Najobuhvatnija mreža gledišta](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1~sr-brankokovacevic.2.25.1) — sr - [Das göttliche Netz](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1~de-sabbamitta.2.25.1) — German - [The Divine Net](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1~en-sujato.2.25.1) — English - [Brahmajala Sutta (Dialogues of the Buddha)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1~en-rhysdavids.2.25) — English ## Commentaries (1) - [Sumaṅgalavilāsinī](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha!sumangalavilasini.1.63) — Buddhaghosa, Pāli ## Linked texts (2) - [長阿含經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.dirghagama*zh-buddhayasas.21.30) — Classical Chinese - [梵網六十二見經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.dirgha.brahmajalasutra*zh-zhi-qian.1.39) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.25) · Pramāṇa