[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [The Pāli Canon](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada) › [Basket of Discourses](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp) › [Dīghanikāya](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha) › [Brahmajalasutta](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1) › 2.27 # Brahmajalasutta 2.27 Brahmajālasutta 2.27 - **Language:** Pāli ### [2.27.1](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.1) Catutthe ca bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā kimāgamma kimārabbha amarāvikkhepikā tattha tattha pañhaṃ puṭṭhā samānā vācāvikkhepaṃ āpajjanti amarāvikkhepaṃ? > And what is the fourth ground on which they rely? > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.2) Idha, bhikkhave, ekacco samaṇo vā brāhmaṇo vā mando hoti momūho. > It’s when some ascetic or brahmin is dull and stupid. > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.3) So mandattā momūhattā tattha tattha pañhaṃ puṭṭho samāno vācāvikkhepaṃ āpajjati amarāvikkhepaṃ: > Because of that, whenever they’re asked a question, they resort to verbal flip-flops and endless flip-flops: > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.4) ‘atthi paro loko’ti iti ce maṃ pucchasi, ‘atthi paro loko’ti iti ce me assa, ‘atthi paro loko’ti iti te naṃ byākareyyaṃ, > ‘Suppose you were to ask me whether there is another world. If I believed that to be the case, I would say so. > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.5) ‘evantipi me no, tathātipi me no, aññathātipi me no, notipi me no, no notipi me no’ti. > But I don’t say it’s like this. I don’t say it’s like that. I don’t say it’s otherwise. I don’t say it’s not so. And I don’t deny it’s not so. > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.6](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.6) ‘Natthi paro loko …pe… > Suppose you were to ask me whether there is no other world … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.7](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.7) ‘atthi ca natthi ca paro loko …pe… > whether there both is and is not another world … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.8](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.8) ‘nevatthi na natthi paro loko …pe… > whether there neither is nor is not another world … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.9](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.9) ‘atthi sattā opapātikā …pe… > whether there are beings who are reborn spontaneously … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.10](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.10) ‘natthi sattā opapātikā …pe… > whether there are not beings who are reborn spontaneously … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.11) ‘atthi ca natthi ca sattā opapātikā …pe… > whether there both are and are not beings who are reborn spontaneously … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.12](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.12) ‘nevatthi na natthi sattā opapātikā …pe… > whether there neither are nor are not beings who are reborn spontaneously … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.13](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.13) ‘atthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko …pe… > whether there is fruit and result of good and bad deeds … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.14](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.14) ‘natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko …pe… > whether there is no fruit and result of good and bad deeds … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.15](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.15) ‘atthi ca natthi ca sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko …pe… > whether there both is and is not fruit and result of good and bad deeds … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.16](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.16) ‘nevatthi na natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko …pe… > whether there neither is nor is not fruit and result of good and bad deeds … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.17](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.17) ‘hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā …pe… > whether a realized one still exists after death … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.18](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.18) ‘na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā …pe… > whether a realized one no longer exists after death … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.19](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.19) ‘hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā …pe… > whether a realized one both still exists and no longer exists after death … > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.20](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.20) ‘neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā’ti iti ce maṃ pucchasi, ‘neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā’ti iti ce me assa, ‘neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā’ti iti te naṃ byākareyyaṃ, > whether a realized one neither still exists nor no longer exists after death. If I believed that to be the case, I would say so. > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.21](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.21) ‘evantipi me no, tathātipi me no, aññathātipi me no, notipi me no, no notipi me no’ti. > But I don’t say it’s like this. I don’t say it’s like that. I don’t say it’s otherwise. I don’t say it’s not so. And I don’t deny it’s not so.’ > — The Divine Net ### [2.27.22](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27.22) Idaṃ, bhikkhave, catutthaṃ ṭhānaṃ, yaṃ āgamma yaṃ ārabbha eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā amarāvikkhepikā tattha tattha pañhaṃ puṭṭhā samānā vācāvikkhepaṃ āpajjanti amarāvikkhepaṃ. > This is the fourth ground on which some ascetics and brahmins rely when resorting to verbal flip-flops and endless flip-flops. > — The Divine Net ## Translations (5) - [Наставление о величайшей сети](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1~ru-khantibalo.2.27.1) — Russian - [Najobuhvatnija mreža gledišta](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1~sr-brankokovacevic.2.27.1) — sr - [Das göttliche Netz](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1~de-sabbamitta.2.27.1) — German - [The Divine Net](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1~en-sujato.2.27.1) — English - [Brahmajala Sutta (Dialogues of the Buddha)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1~en-rhysdavids.2.27) — English ## Commentaries (1) - [Sumaṅgalavilāsinī](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha!sumangalavilasini.1.65-66) — Buddhaghosa, Pāli ## Linked texts (3) - [長阿含經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.dirghagama*zh-buddhayasas.21.32) — Classical Chinese - [梵網六十二見經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.dirgha.brahmajalasutra*zh-zhi-qian.1.39) — Classical Chinese - [Chaṭṭhasaṅgāyana-pucchāvissajjanā](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada_postcanon.modern.sangayana-puccha.3.63) — Pāli --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.27) · Pramāṇa