[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [The Pāli Canon](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada) › [Basket of Discourses](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp) › [Dīghanikāya](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha) › [With Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23) › 10.1-19 # With Pāyāsi 10.1-19 Pāyāsisutta 10.1-19 - **Language:** Pāli ### [10.1](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.1) “Kiñcāpi bhavaṃ kassapo evamāha, atha kho evaṃ me ettha hoti: > “Even though the worthy Kassapa says this, still I think that > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.2) ‘itipi natthi paro loko, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti. > there is no afterlife.” > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.3) “Atthi pana, rājañña, pariyāyo …pe… > “Can you prove it?” > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.4) “atthi, bho kassapa, pariyāyo …pe… > “I can.” > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.5) yathā kathaṃ viya, rājaññāti? > “How, exactly, chieftain?” > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.6](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.6) “Idha me, bho kassapa, mittāmaccā ñātisālohitā pāṇātipātā paṭiviratā adinnādānā paṭiviratā kāmesumicchācārā paṭiviratā musāvādā paṭiviratā surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhānā paṭiviratā, > “Well, I have friends and colleagues, relatives and kin who refrain from killing living creatures and so on. > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.7](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.7) te aparena samayena ābādhikā honti dukkhitā bāḷhagilānā. > Some time later they become sick, suffering, gravely ill. > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.8](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.8) Yadāhaṃ jānāmi: > When I know that > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.9](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.9) ‘na dānime imamhā ābādhā vuṭṭhahissantī’ti tyāhaṃ upasaṅkamitvā evaṃ vadāmi: > they will not recover from their illness, I go to them and say, > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.10](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.10) ‘santi kho, bho, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṃvādino evaṃdiṭṭhino: > ‘Worthy sir, there are some ascetics and brahmins who have this doctrine and view: > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.11) “ye te pāṇātipātā paṭiviratā adinnādānā paṭiviratā kāmesumicchācārā paṭiviratā musāvādā paṭiviratā surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhānā paṭiviratā, te kāyassa bhedā paraṃ maraṇā sugatiṃ saggaṃ lokaṃ upapajjanti devānaṃ tāvatiṃsānaṃ sahabyatan”ti. > “Those who refrain from killing living creatures and so on are reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm, in the company of the gods of the thirty-three.” > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.12](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.12) Bhavanto kho pāṇātipātā paṭiviratā adinnādānā paṭiviratā kāmesumicchācārā paṭiviratā musāvādā paṭiviratā surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhānā paṭiviratā. > You do all these things. > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.13](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.13) Sace tesaṃ bhavataṃ samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṃ saccaṃ vacanaṃ, bhavanto kāyassa bhedā paraṃ maraṇā sugatiṃ saggaṃ lokaṃ upapajjissanti, devānaṃ tāvatiṃsānaṃ sahabyataṃ. > If what those ascetics and brahmins say is true, when your body breaks up, after death, you’ll be reborn in the company of the gods of the thirty-three. > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.14](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.14) Sace, bho, kāyassa bhedā paraṃ maraṇā sugatiṃ saggaṃ lokaṃ upapajjeyyātha devānaṃ tāvatiṃsānaṃ sahabyataṃ, yena me āgantvā āroceyyātha: > If that happens, worthy sir, come and tell me that > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.15](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.15) “itipi atthi paro loko, atthi sattā opapātikā, atthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko”ti. > there is an afterlife. > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.16](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.16) Bhavanto kho pana me saddhāyikā paccayikā, yaṃ bhavantehi diṭṭhaṃ, yathā sāmaṃ diṭṭhaṃ evametaṃ bhavissatī’ti. > I trust you and believe you. Anything you see will be just as if I’ve seen it for myself.’ > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.17](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.17) Te me ‘sādhū’ti paṭissutvā neva āgantvā ārocenti, na pana dūtaṃ pahiṇanti. > They agree to this. But they don’t come back to tell me, nor do they send a messenger. > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.18](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.18) Ayampi kho, bho kassapa, pariyāyo, yena me pariyāyena evaṃ hoti: > This is how I prove that > — With Pāyāsi ### [10.19](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.19) ‘itipi natthi paro loko, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti. > there is no afterlife.” > — With Pāyāsi ## Translations (3) - [Razgovor sa Pāyāsijem](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~sr-brankokovacevic.10.1) — sr - [With Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~en-sujato.10.1) — English - [Mit Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~de-sabbamitta.10.1) — German ## Commentaries (1) - [Sumaṅgalavilāsinī](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha!sumangalavilasini.23.416) — Buddhaghosa, Pāli ## Linked texts (2) - [中阿含經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.madhyamagama*zh-sanghadeva.71.36) — Classical Chinese - [長阿含經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.dirghagama*zh-buddhayasas.7.37) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.1-19](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.10.1-19) · Pramāṇa