“Well, I see ascetics and brahmins who are ethical, of good character, who want to live and don’t want to die, who want to be happy and recoil from pain.
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12.7

Tassa mayhaṃ, bho kassapa, evaṃ hoti—

I think to myself,
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12.8

sace kho ime bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā sīlavanto kalyāṇadhammā evaṃ jāneyyuṃ:

‘If those ascetics and brahmins knew that
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12.9

‘ito no matānaṃ seyyo bhavissatī’ti.

things were going to be better for them after death,
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12.10

Idānime bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā sīlavanto kalyāṇadhammā visaṃ vā khādeyyuṃ, satthaṃ vā āhareyyuṃ, ubbandhitvā vā kālaṃ kareyyuṃ, papāte vā papateyyuṃ.

they’d drink poison, take their lives, hang themselves, or throw themselves off a cliff.
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12.11

Yasmā ca kho ime bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā sīlavanto kalyāṇadhammā na evaṃ jānanti:

They mustn’t know that
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12.12

‘ito no matānaṃ seyyo bhavissatī’ti, tasmā ime bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā sīlavanto kalyāṇadhammā jīvitukāmā amaritukāmā sukhakāmā dukkhapaṭikūlā attānaṃ na mārenti.

things are going to be better for them after death. That’s why they are ethical, of good character, wanting to live and not wanting to die, wanting to be happy and recoiling from pain.’
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12.13

Ayampi kho, bho kassapa, pariyāyo, yena me pariyāyena evaṃ hoti:

This is the method by which I prove that
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12.14

‘itipi natthi paro loko, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti.

there is no afterlife.”
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Translations (3)

Razgovor sa Pāyāsijem — sr
With Pāyāsi — English
Mit Pāyāsi — German

Commentaries (1)

Sumaṅgalavilāsinī — Buddhaghosa, Pāli

Linked texts (3)

中阿含經 — Classical Chinese
長阿含經 — Classical Chinese
大正句王經 — Classical Chinese