With Pāyāsi 14.1-16
Pāyāsisutta 14.1-16
- Language
- Pāli
14.1
“Kiñcāpi bhavaṃ kassapo evamāha, atha kho evaṃ me ettha hoti:
“Even though the worthy Kassapa says this, still I think that
14.2
‘itipi natthi paro loko, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti.
there is no afterlife.”
14.3
“Atthi pana, rājañña, pariyāyo …pe…
“Can you prove it?”
14.4
atthi, bho kassapa, pariyāyo …pe…
“I can.”
14.5
yathā kathaṃ viya, rājaññā”ti?
“How, exactly, chieftain?”
14.6
“Idha me, bho kassapa, purisā coraṃ āgucāriṃ gahetvā dassenti:
“Suppose they were to arrest a bandit, a criminal and present him to me, saying,
14.7
‘ayaṃ te, bhante, coro āgucārī;
‘Sir, this is a bandit, a criminal.
14.8
imassa yaṃ icchasi, taṃ daṇḍaṃ paṇehī’ti.
Punish him as you will.’
14.9
Tyāhaṃ evaṃ vadāmi:
I say to them,
14.10
‘tena hi, bho, imaṃ purisaṃ jīvantaṃyeva kumbhiyā pakkhipitvā mukhaṃ pidahitvā allena cammena onandhitvā allāya mattikāya bahalāvalepanaṃ karitvā uddhanaṃ āropetvā aggiṃ dethā’ti.
‘Well then, worthy sir, place this man in a pot while he’s still alive. Close up the mouth, bind it up with damp leather, and seal it with a thick coat of damp clay. Then lift it up on a stove and light the fire.’
14.11
Te me ‘sādhū’ti paṭissutvā taṃ purisaṃ jīvantaṃyeva kumbhiyā pakkhipitvā mukhaṃ pidahitvā allena cammena onandhitvā allāya mattikāya bahalāvalepanaṃ karitvā uddhanaṃ āropetvā aggiṃ denti.
They agree, and do what I ask.
14.12
Yadā mayaṃ jānāma ‘kālaṅkato so puriso’ti, atha naṃ kumbhiṃ oropetvā ubbhinditvā mukhaṃ vivaritvā saṇikaṃ nillokema:
When we know that that man has passed away, we lift down the pot and break it open, uncover the mouth, and slowly peek inside, thinking,
14.13
‘appeva nāmassa jīvaṃ nikkhamantaṃ passeyyāmā’ti.
‘Hopefully we’ll see his soul escaping.’
14.14
Nevassa mayaṃ jīvaṃ nikkhamantaṃ passāma.
But we don’t see his soul escaping.
14.15
Ayampi kho, bho kassapa, pariyāyo, yena me pariyāyena evaṃ hoti:
This is how I prove that
14.16
‘itipi natthi paro loko, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti.
there is no afterlife.”
Translations (3)
- Razgovor sa Pāyāsijem — sr
- With Pāyāsi — English
- Mit Pāyāsi — German
Commentaries (1)
- Sumaṅgalavilāsinī — Buddhaghosa, Pāli