With Pāyāsi 16.1-15
Pāyāsisutta 16.1-15
- Language
- Pāli
16.1
“Kiñcāpi bhavaṃ kassapo evamāha, atha kho evaṃ me ettha hoti:
“Even though the worthy Kassapa says this, still I think that
16.2
‘itipi natthi paro loko, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti.
there is no afterlife.”
16.3
“Atthi pana, rājañña, pariyāyo …pe…
“Can you prove it?”
16.4
“atthi, bho kassapa, pariyāyo …pe…
“I can.”
16.5
yathā kathaṃ viya, rājaññā”ti?
“How, exactly, chieftain?”
16.6
“Idha me, bho kassapa, purisā coraṃ āgucāriṃ gahetvā dassenti:
“Suppose they were to arrest a bandit, a criminal and present him to me, saying,
16.7
‘ayaṃ te, bhante, coro āgucārī;
‘Sir, this is a bandit, a criminal.
16.8
imassa yaṃ icchasi, taṃ daṇḍaṃ paṇehī’ti.
Punish him as you will.’
16.9
Tyāhaṃ evaṃ vadāmi:
I say to them,
16.10
‘tena hi, bho, imaṃ purisaṃ jīvantaṃyeva tulāya tuletvā jiyāya anassāsakaṃ māretvā punadeva tulāya tulethā’ti.
‘Well then, worthy sir, weigh this man with scales while he’s still alive. Then strangle him with a bowstring, and when he’s dead, weigh him again.’
16.11
Te me ‘sādhū’ti paṭissutvā taṃ purisaṃ jīvantaṃyeva tulāya tuletvā jiyāya anassāsakaṃ māretvā punadeva tulāya tulenti.
They agree, and do what I ask.
16.12
Yadā so jīvati, tadā lahutaro ca hoti mudutaro ca kammaññataro ca.
So long as they are alive, they’re lighter, softer, more flexible.
16.13
Yadā pana so kālaṅkato hoti tadā garutaro ca hoti patthinnataro ca akammaññataro ca.
But when they die they become heavier, stiffer, less flexible.
16.14
Ayampi kho, bho kassapa, pariyāyo, yena me pariyāyena evaṃ hoti:
This is how I prove that
16.15
‘itipi natthi paro loko, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti.
there is no afterlife.”
Translations (3)
- Razgovor sa Pāyāsijem — sr
- With Pāyāsi — English
- Mit Pāyāsi — German
Commentaries (1)
- Sumaṅgalavilāsinī — Buddhaghosa, Pāli
Linked texts (1)
- 長阿含經 — Classical Chinese