[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [The Pāli Canon](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada) › [Basket of Discourses](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp) › [Dīghanikāya](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha) › [With Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23) › 16.1-15 # With Pāyāsi 16.1-15 Pāyāsisutta 16.1-15 - **Language:** Pāli ### [16.1](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.1) “Kiñcāpi bhavaṃ kassapo evamāha, atha kho evaṃ me ettha hoti: > “Even though the worthy Kassapa says this, still I think that > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.2) ‘itipi natthi paro loko, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti. > there is no afterlife.” > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.3) “Atthi pana, rājañña, pariyāyo …pe… > “Can you prove it?” > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.4) “atthi, bho kassapa, pariyāyo …pe… > “I can.” > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.5) yathā kathaṃ viya, rājaññā”ti? > “How, exactly, chieftain?” > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.6](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.6) “Idha me, bho kassapa, purisā coraṃ āgucāriṃ gahetvā dassenti: > “Suppose they were to arrest a bandit, a criminal and present him to me, saying, > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.7](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.7) ‘ayaṃ te, bhante, coro āgucārī; > ‘Sir, this is a bandit, a criminal. > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.8](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.8) imassa yaṃ icchasi, taṃ daṇḍaṃ paṇehī’ti. > Punish him as you will.’ > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.9](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.9) Tyāhaṃ evaṃ vadāmi: > I say to them, > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.10](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.10) ‘tena hi, bho, imaṃ purisaṃ jīvantaṃyeva tulāya tuletvā jiyāya anassāsakaṃ māretvā punadeva tulāya tulethā’ti. > ‘Well then, worthy sir, weigh this man with scales while he’s still alive. Then strangle him with a bowstring, and when he’s dead, weigh him again.’ > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.11) Te me ‘sādhū’ti paṭissutvā taṃ purisaṃ jīvantaṃyeva tulāya tuletvā jiyāya anassāsakaṃ māretvā punadeva tulāya tulenti. > They agree, and do what I ask. > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.12](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.12) Yadā so jīvati, tadā lahutaro ca hoti mudutaro ca kammaññataro ca. > So long as they are alive, they’re lighter, softer, more flexible. > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.13](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.13) Yadā pana so kālaṅkato hoti tadā garutaro ca hoti patthinnataro ca akammaññataro ca. > But when they die they become heavier, stiffer, less flexible. > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.14](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.14) Ayampi kho, bho kassapa, pariyāyo, yena me pariyāyena evaṃ hoti: > This is how I prove that > — With Pāyāsi ### [16.15](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.15) ‘itipi natthi paro loko, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti. > there is no afterlife.” > — With Pāyāsi ## Translations (3) - [Razgovor sa Pāyāsijem](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~sr-brankokovacevic.16.1) — sr - [With Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~en-sujato.16.1) — English - [Mit Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~de-sabbamitta.16.1) — German ## Commentaries (1) - [Sumaṅgalavilāsinī](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha!sumangalavilasini.23.423) — Buddhaghosa, Pāli ## Linked texts (1) - [長阿含經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.dirghagama*zh-buddhayasas.7.67) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.1-15](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.16.1-15) · Pramāṇa