[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [The Pāli Canon](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada) › [Basket of Discourses](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp) › [Dīghanikāya](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha) › [With Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23) › 17.1-11 # With Pāyāsi 17.1-11 Pāyāsisutta 17.1-11 - **Language:** Pāli ### [17.1](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.1) “Tena hi, rājañña, upamaṃ te karissāmi. > “Well then, chieftain, I shall give you a simile. > — With Pāyāsi ### [17.2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.2) Upamāya m’idhekacce viññū purisā bhāsitassa atthaṃ ājānanti. > For by means of a simile some sensible people understand the meaning of what is said. > — With Pāyāsi ### [17.3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.3) Seyyathāpi, rājañña, puriso divasaṃ santattaṃ ayoguḷaṃ ādittaṃ sampajjalitaṃ sajotibhūtaṃ tulāya tuleyya. > Suppose a person was to heat an iron ball all day until it was burning, blazing, and glowing, and then they weigh it with scales. > — With Pāyāsi ### [17.4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.4) Tamenaṃ aparena samayena sītaṃ nibbutaṃ tulāya tuleyya. > After some time, when it had cooled and become quenched, they’d weigh it again. > — With Pāyāsi ### [17.5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.5) Kadā nu kho so ayoguḷo lahutaro vā hoti mudutaro vā kammaññataro vā, yadā vā āditto sampajjalito sajotibhūto, yadā vā sīto nibbuto”ti? > When would that iron ball be lighter, softer, and more workable—when it’s burning or when it’s cool?” > — With Pāyāsi ### [17.6](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.6) “Yadā so, bho kassapa, ayoguḷo tejosahagato ca hoti vāyosahagato ca āditto sampajjalito sajotibhūto, tadā lahutaro ca hoti mudutaro ca kammaññataro ca. > “So long as the iron ball is full of heat and air—burning, blazing, and glowing—it’s lighter, softer, and more workable. > — With Pāyāsi ### [17.7](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.7) Yadā pana so ayoguḷo neva tejosahagato hoti na vāyosahagato sīto nibbuto, tadā garutaro ca hoti patthinnataro ca akammaññataro cā”ti. > But when it lacks heat and air—cooled and quenched—it’s heavier, stiffer, and less workable.” > — With Pāyāsi ### [17.8](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.8) “Evameva kho, rājañña, yadāyaṃ kāyo āyusahagato ca hoti usmāsahagato ca viññāṇasahagato ca, tadā lahutaro ca hoti mudutaro ca kammaññataro ca. > “In the same way, so long as this body is full of life and warmth and consciousness it’s lighter, softer, and more flexible. > — With Pāyāsi ### [17.9](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.9) Yadā panāyaṃ kāyo neva āyusahagato hoti na usmāsahagato na viññāṇasahagato tadā garutaro ca hoti patthinnataro ca akammaññataro ca. > But when it lacks life and warmth and consciousness it’s heavier, stiffer, and less flexible. > — With Pāyāsi ### [17.10](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.10) Imināpi kho te, rājañña, pariyāyena evaṃ hotu: > By this method, too, it ought to be proven that > — With Pāyāsi ### [17.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.11) ‘itipi atthi paro loko, atthi sattā opapātikā, atthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti. > there is an afterlife.” > — With Pāyāsi ## Translations (3) - [Razgovor sa Pāyāsijem](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~sr-brankokovacevic.17.1) — sr - [With Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~en-sujato.17.1) — English - [Mit Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~de-sabbamitta.17.1) — German ## Commentaries (1) - [Sumaṅgalavilāsinī](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha!sumangalavilasini.23.424) — Buddhaghosa, Pāli ## Linked texts (1) - [長阿含經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.dirghagama*zh-buddhayasas.7.72) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.1-11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.1-11) · Pramāṇa