[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [The Pāli Canon](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada) › [Basket of Discourses](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp) › [Dīghanikāya](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha) › [With Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23) › 17.5 # With Pāyāsi 17.5 Pāyāsisutta 17.5 - **Language:** Pāli ### [17.5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.5) Kadā nu kho so ayoguḷo lahutaro vā hoti mudutaro vā kammaññataro vā, yadā vā āditto sampajjalito sajotibhūto, yadā vā sīto nibbuto”ti? > When would that iron ball be lighter, softer, and more workable—when it’s burning or when it’s cool?” > — With Pāyāsi - [Previous: 17.4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.4) - [Next: 17.6](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.6) - [Up: 17](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17) ## Translations (3) - [Razgovor sa Pāyāsijem](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~sr-brankokovacevic.17.5) — sr - [With Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~en-sujato.17.5) — English - [Mit Pāyāsi](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23~de-sabbamitta.17.5) — German ## Linked texts (1) - [長阿含經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.dirghagama*zh-buddhayasas.7.72) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.23.17.5) · Pramāṇa