[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [The Pāli Canon](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada) › [Basket of Discourses](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp) › [Dīghanikāya](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha) › [Pathikasutta](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24) › 2.20.1-22 # Pathikasutta 2.20.1-22 Pāthikasutta 2.20.1-22 - **Language:** Pāli ### [2.20.1](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.1) Santi, bhaggava, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā adhiccasamuppannaṃ ācariyakaṃ aggaññaṃ paññapenti. > There are some ascetics and brahmins who describe the origin of the world in their denomination as having arisen as an anomaly. > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.2) Tyāhaṃ upasaṅkamitvā evaṃ vadāmi: > I go up to them and say, > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.3) ‘saccaṃ kira tumhe āyasmanto adhiccasamuppannaṃ ācariyakaṃ aggaññaṃ paññapethā’ti? > ‘Is it really true that this is the venerables’ view?’ > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.4) Te ca me evaṃ puṭṭhā ‘āmo’ti paṭijānanti. > And they answer, ‘Yes’. > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.5) Tyāhaṃ evaṃ vadāmi: > I say to them, > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.6](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.6) ‘kathaṃvihitakaṃ pana tumhe āyasmanto adhiccasamuppannaṃ ācariyakaṃ aggaññaṃ paññapethā’ti? > ‘But how do you describe in your denomination that the origin of the world came about anomalously?’ > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.7](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.7) Te mayā puṭṭhā na sampāyanti, asampāyantā mamaññeva paṭipucchanti. > But they are stumped by my question, and they even question me in return. > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.8](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.8) Tesāhaṃ puṭṭho byākaromi: > So I answer them, > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.9](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.9) ‘Santāvuso, asaññasattā nāma devā. > ‘Reverends, there are gods named “non-percipient beings”. > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.10](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.10) Saññuppādā ca pana te devā tamhā kāyā cavanti. > When perception arises they pass away from that host of gods. > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.11) Ṭhānaṃ kho panetaṃ, āvuso, vijjati yaṃ aññataro satto tamhā kāyā cavitvā itthattaṃ āgacchati. > It’s possible that one of those beings passes away from that host and is reborn in this place. > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.12](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.12) Itthattaṃ āgato samāno agārasmā anagāriyaṃ pabbajati. > Having done so, they go forth from the lay life to homelessness. > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.13](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.13) Agārasmā anagāriyaṃ pabbajito samāno ātappamanvāya padhānamanvāya anuyogamanvāya appamādamanvāya sammāmanasikāramanvāya tathārūpaṃ cetosamādhiṃ phusati, yathāsamāhite citte taṃ saññuppādaṃ anussarati, tato paraṃ nānussarati’. > By dint of keen, resolute, committed, and diligent effort, and right application of mind, they experience an immersion of the heart of such a kind that they recollect the arising of perception, but no further. > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.14](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.14) So evamāha: > They say, > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.15](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.15) ‘adhiccasamuppanno attā ca loko ca. > “The self and the cosmos arose anomalously. > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.16](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.16) Taṃ kissa hetu? > Why is that? > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.17](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.17) Ahañhi pubbe nāhosiṃ, somhi etarahi ahutvā santatāya pariṇato’ti. > Because formerly I didn’t exist, whereas now, having not existed, I’ve transformed into the state of existing.” > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.18](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.18) ‘Evaṃvihitakaṃ no tumhe āyasmanto adhiccasamuppannaṃ ācariyakaṃ aggaññaṃ paññapethā’ti? > Is this how you describe in your denomination that the origin of the world came about anomalously?’ > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.19](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.19) Te evamāhaṃsu: > They say, > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.20](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.20) ‘evaṃ kho no, āvuso gotama, sutaṃ yathevāyasmā gotamo āhā’ti. > ‘That is what we have heard, Reverend Gotama, just as you say.’ > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.21](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.21) Aggaññañcāhaṃ, bhaggava, pajānāmi tañca pajānāmi, tato ca uttaritaraṃ pajānāmi, tañca pajānaṃ na parāmasāmi, aparāmasato ca me paccattaññeva nibbuti viditā. > I understand this, and what goes beyond it. Yet since I do not misapprehend that understanding, I have realized quenching within myself. Directly knowing this, the Realized One does not come to ruin. > — About Pāṭikaputta ### [2.20.22](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.22) Yadabhijānaṃ tathāgato no anayaṃ āpajjati. ## Translations (3) - [O Pāṭhikaputti](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24~sr-brankokovacevic.2.20.1) — sr - [About Pāṭikaputta](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24~en-sujato.2.20.1) — English - [Über Pāṭikaputta](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24~de-sabbamitta.2.20.1) — German ## Linked texts (2) - [長阿含經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.dirghagama*zh-buddhayasas.15.33) — Classical Chinese - [Brahmajālasutta](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.1.2.31.2) — Pāli --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.1-22](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.24.2.20.1-22) · Pramāṇa