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With Soṇadaṇḍa 8.1-20

Soṇadaṇḍasutta 8.1-20

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Pāli

8.1

Atha kho soṇadaṇḍassa brāhmaṇassa tirovanasaṇḍagatassa evaṃ cetaso parivitakko udapādi:

But as he reached the far side of the forest, this thought came to mind,

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8.2

“ahañceva kho pana samaṇaṃ gotamaṃ pañhaṃ puccheyyaṃ;

“Suppose I was to ask the ascetic Gotama a question.

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8.3

tatra ce maṃ samaṇo gotamo evaṃ vadeyya:

He might say to me:

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8.4

‘na kho esa, brāhmaṇa, pañho evaṃ pucchitabbo, evaṃ nāmesa, brāhmaṇa, pañho pucchitabbo’ti, tena maṃ ayaṃ parisā paribhaveyya:

‘Brahmin, you shouldn’t ask your question like that. This is how you should ask it.’ And the assembly might disparage me for that:

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8.5

‘bālo soṇadaṇḍo brāhmaṇo abyatto, nāsakkhi samaṇaṃ gotamaṃ yoniso pañhaṃ pucchitun’ti.

‘Soṇadaṇḍa is foolish and incompetent. He’s not able to ask the ascetic Gotama a rational question.’

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8.6

Yaṃ kho panāyaṃ parisā paribhaveyya, yasopi tassa hāyetha.

And when you’re disparaged by the assembly, your reputation diminishes.

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8.7

Yassa kho pana yaso hāyetha, bhogāpi tassa hāyeyyuṃ.

When your reputation diminishes, your wealth also diminishes.

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8.8

Yasoladdhā kho panamhākaṃ bhogā.

But my wealth relies on my reputation.

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8.9

Mamañceva kho pana samaṇo gotamo pañhaṃ puccheyya, tassa cāhaṃ pañhassa veyyākaraṇena cittaṃ na ārādheyyaṃ;

Or if the ascetic Gotama asks me a question, I might not satisfy him with my answer.

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8.10

tatra ce maṃ samaṇo gotamo evaṃ vadeyya:

He might say to me:

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8.11

‘na kho esa, brāhmaṇa, pañho evaṃ byākātabbo, evaṃ nāmesa, brāhmaṇa, pañho byākātabbo’ti, tena maṃ ayaṃ parisā paribhaveyya:

‘Brahmin, you shouldn’t answer the question like that. This is how you should answer it.’ And the assembly might disparage me for that:

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8.12

‘bālo soṇadaṇḍo brāhmaṇo abyatto, nāsakkhi samaṇassa gotamassa pañhassa veyyākaraṇena cittaṃ ārādhetun’ti.

‘Soṇadaṇḍa is foolish and incompetent. He’s not able to satisfy the ascetic Gotama’s mind with his answer.’

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8.13

Yaṃ kho panāyaṃ parisā paribhaveyya, yasopi tassa hāyetha.

And when you’re disparaged by the assembly, your reputation diminishes.

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8.14

Yassa kho pana yaso hāyetha, bhogāpi tassa hāyeyyuṃ.

When your reputation diminishes, your wealth also diminishes.

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8.15

Yasoladdhā kho panamhākaṃ bhogā.

But my wealth relies on my reputation.

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8.16

Ahañceva kho pana evaṃ samīpagato samāno adisvāva samaṇaṃ gotamaṃ nivatteyyaṃ, tena maṃ ayaṃ parisā paribhaveyya:

On the other hand, if I were to turn back after having come so far without having seen the ascetic Gotama, the assembly might disparage me for that:

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8.17

‘bālo soṇadaṇḍo brāhmaṇo abyatto mānathaddho bhīto ca, no visahati samaṇaṃ gotamaṃ dassanāya upasaṅkamituṃ, kathañhi nāma evaṃ samīpagato samāno adisvā samaṇaṃ gotamaṃ nivattissatī’ti.

‘Soṇadaṇḍa is foolish and incompetent. He’s stuck-up and scared. He doesn’t dare to go and see the ascetic Gotama. For how on earth can he turn back after having come so far without having seen the ascetic Gotama!’

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8.18

Yaṃ kho panāyaṃ parisā paribhaveyya, yasopi tassa hāyetha.

And when you’re disparaged by the assembly, your reputation diminishes.

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8.19

Yassa kho pana yaso hāyetha, bhogāpi tassa hāyeyyuṃ,

When your reputation diminishes, your wealth also diminishes.

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8.20

yasoladdhā kho panamhākaṃ bhogā”ti.

But my wealth relies on my reputation.”

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